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Joyce Fdn's Second Amendment Research Center

Posted by David Hardy · 25 November 2009 07:34 PM

A comment here noted that Ohio St. University's Second Amendment Research Center (funded by Joyce Foundation, to attack the Second Amendment) appears to have vanished. Looks like Joyce invested over $600,000 in it, but stopped funding after Heller, the Center closed, and Prof. Cornell moved on to a position with Fordham (It's an endowed chair, meaning better pay and prestige). Prof. Joe Olson verified that the Center had vanished, and Prof. Randy Barnett noted it at the Volokh Conspiracy.

Olson thereafter got this email:

"STEVEN CONN
11/25/2009 4:25 PM >>> Dear Prof. Olsen,

I've just come across your crowing obituary for Saul Cornell's 2nd ammendment center. It did indeed serve its purposes - among which was to expose the intellectually flaccid historical work done by so-called legal historians working in law schools. It is easy to achieve a "consensus" around the 2nd ammendment if the those who form it exist entirely in an intellectual echo chamber. I sure wish I got to publish without any peer review process!

Saul also published a major book (Oxford University Press) whose findings, while they have generated a great deal of nasty invective, have stood up as accurate. We all eagerly await your next publication of any consequence. And you will also note that Saul has left OSU to fill a endowed chair at Fordham. Perhaps someday you too will get an offer which will allow you to leave Hamlin College.

Happy Shooting,

Steve

Steven Conn
Professor and Director, Public History
History Department
Ohio State University"

To which Joe responded, "That's zero for one.

The obit. on VC is by Professor Randy BARNETT, not me. BTW, you misspelled my name too. Perhaps, peer review is required?"

· antigun groups

11 Comments | Leave a comment

Eric | November 25, 2009 10:47 PM | Reply

Considering the Joyce Foundation's penchant for stacking symposiums and journals with anti-2A "scholars," he's got a lotta nerve yammering on about countering "intellectual echo chamber[s]." And then he sends it to the wrong guy. Pathetic.

Oh, and as far as the History discipline's "peer review" superiority? One word: Bellesile.

DaveP. | November 25, 2009 11:56 PM | Reply

This guy can't even spell, and he's a professor?

Sheesh. I remember when it meant something, to be a PhD.

David E. Young | November 26, 2009 12:26 AM | Reply

Professor Conn is hereby invited to examine my Challenge to Supporters of the Heller Dissent, which examines a particular historical error in the professional historian's amicus brief supporting Washington DC. Since Saul Cornell claimed co-authorship of that brief, he gets credit for the particular error documented in my post. The URL is:

http://onsecondopinion.blogspot.com/2009/03/challenge-to-supporters-of-heller.html

Then, after confirming for himself that Professor Cornell ignored several documents directly contradicting his position in the Heller amicus, Professor Conn is invited to go to the beginning of the Root Causes of Never Ending Second Amendment Dispute series (24 parts & counting) to take a look at the astounding number of other documented historical errors from his hero, Saul Cornell.

The On Second Opinion blog URL is:

http://onsecondopinion.blogspot.com/

dad29 | November 26, 2009 9:23 AM | Reply

Peer review of Dr. Conn's emails, for sure.

By the way, did he ever obtain a HS diploma?

Robert | November 26, 2009 10:36 AM | Reply

You're just nit-picking. Don't you see it doesn't MATTER? Complaining about grammer or spelling is simple small-mindedness. Facts don't matter...it's the VISION that counts. Even sending the email to the wrong gun nut doesn't matter....because all you crazy, anti-progressive, right-wing, racist, old, white, republican, tea-bagging nut-jobs are THE SAME!!!

Gosh, learn your station in life already!

(I think I might finally have the hang of this!)

Carl from Chicago | November 26, 2009 11:47 AM | Reply

That was a very enjoyable blog-post. Thanks David.

Has someone forwarded this information to the Joyce Foundation? Perhaps it's time to let them know.


As an aside ... I think that if one were to look at petitioner's and their amici's briefs in Heller, and curry-comb all of their citations, might find that the majority of the cited "scholarship" on the collective and sophisticated collective rights position was or is in some way tied to Joyce Foundation dollars.

To think that single foundation of wealthy Chicago elitists almost got away with rewriting history with a SCOTUS decision ... is, well, both amazing and alarming.

Dennis | November 27, 2009 8:29 PM | Reply

I do wonder if the same professionally progressive scholars will attempt the same work on a brief for the MacDonald case. How far can they further bend credulity before they break it and get laughed out of the courts? After reading David Young's articles, they should be ashamed to show the faces.

straightarrow | November 30, 2009 12:22 AM | Reply

Eric must be far older than I. I can't remember when a PHD meant a damn thing other than the holder was extremely malleable and parrot-like.

To actually earn a PHD one must contribute new information or discovery to the field of study, therefore, since most doctoral theses are nothing more than slight rewordings of accepted dogma, the very very great majority of PHDs in this country are unearned and illegitimate.

Of all the PHDs I have known all but a few, less than the fingers on one hand, have been the dumbest s.o.b.'s I have ever known.

Bill | November 30, 2009 9:28 AM | Reply

Seems pretty well standard fare from the lefty academical type: smug, snarky, sarcastic, devoid of any substance, petty and childish.

But what more would one expect from a left-wing academician.

Brandon | December 1, 2009 2:24 PM | Reply

No one with such poor spelling and grammar in his written communication should be calling anyone "intellectually flaccid."

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