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New 4473

Posted by David Hardy · 15 October 2020 11:42 AM

ATF is issuing a new 4473, mandatory November 1. The changes seem modest.

6 Comments | Leave a comment

Geoff | October 16, 2020 7:54 AM | Reply

But now the firearm information is on the same page as the buyer's information, making it easier for the ATF to copy the info when they inspect the FFL's records. The firearm info WAS on the second page. Now they just have to photograph one page and they have what they want.

Renov8 | October 16, 2020 8:07 AM | Reply

...and how many of you real people identify as BINARY?

this is on the new form...who would have thought our government would be so easy to coerce into thinking there is more than two sexes/genders?

one word...ridiculous.

Jeff | October 16, 2020 10:14 AM | Reply

The real change is adding "non-binary" to sex, which should be a disqualifier for mental health reasons.

1 With A Bullet | October 16, 2020 11:43 AM | Reply

The new forms are already in use. The unprecedented sales this year exhausted supplies of the old form. My LGS began using them in September.

Tom replied to comment from Renov8 | October 17, 2020 11:56 AM | Reply

"... how many of you real people identify as BINARY?"
Well, I just bought a binary trigger for my AR.
Does that count?

HSR47 | October 24, 2020 1:18 AM | Reply

There are a few issues with this form:

* It puts the firearm information and buyer's information on the same page, which would make it significantly easier for the government to create a partial registry at some point down the line. This is a bad thing, and must be discouraged.

The rest of the issues I see draw on my experience working behind the counter with the prior 4473s:

* My instructions to customers was for them to fill out JUST THE FRONT, while I did other related paperwork. Once they'd finished that, I would check over their answers--Any correctable issues would be corrected before the transaction proceeded, and any that couldn't be corrected would stop the transaction.

* Shifting a significant amount of the buyer's answers to a second page will make that checking harder and will increase the chances that customers will continue beyond the signature.

* On top of that, ATF is requiring that FFLs fill out the firearm information FIRST, before the buyer fills anything out--that means that correctable mistakes will more often result in significant lost time (as the salesman needs to refill all gun info).

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