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SAF files against Illinois yet again....
SAF, Illinois Carry, and Illinois State Rifle and Pistol have filed Culp v. Madigan (C. D. Ill.), challenging a feature of the new handgun carry permit system, adopted in the wake of prior legal challenges. The new system, for reasons that seem hard to understand, says that nonresidents can only apply for a carry permit if their own State has a handgun carry permit system substantially identical to that of Illinois. Attorney is David Sigale.
The suit should be a winner. It's hard even to understand how that limitation got in there. I can only guess that someone knew that carry permit systems often have reciprocity and that these provisions commonly limit recognition to permits issued by States with similar standards, or standards at least as strict as those of the State being asked to recognize them. But the provision here isn't a matter of reciprocity, but of which nonresidents can get an Illinois permit.
· Chicago aftermath ~ · State legislation
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If the crux of reciprocity hinges on the accepted State's permit process being substantially similar, then having reciprocity with Hawaii does not make sense. Hawaii is a "May Issue" state with no training requirements for issuing a concealed carry permit. Not only does Hawaii have no training requirements, it has no limitations on where you can carry if you do get a permit. Of course the point, at least for Hawaii residents is moot as no one (only 4 permits issued in 13 years...) actually gets a permit....
A look into the process that generated the Illinois Firearms Concealed Carry Act of 2013 would answer the question posed.
The original bill by Rep. Brandon Phelps with considerable help from the Illinois NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde and numerous others was sound, even if a bit overly-Illinois (to coin a term, meaning loaded with if, ands, and buts).
But then the legislative process removed the bill to the office of the Speaker of the Illinois House, Mike Madigan, also known as the real power in Illinois, and it is said his legislative aides did the final modifications to make it more palatable to the Chicagoans.
As is so evident from a reading of the 168-page bill, these folks knew little of guns, gun law, and firearm safety in general.
For such people to have stumbled dealing with the concept of recognition and reciprocity is no surprise.