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« This country is in the best of hands... | Main | Supreme Court end of Term crush »

NY justice

Posted by David Hardy · 10 June 2014 05:06 PM

They caught the goon who is suspected of stabbing two little Brooklyn kids, one of whom died.

He's also suspected in another fatal stabbing, committed seven days after he got out of prison, and two days before he stabbed the girls. He was in prison for attempted murder -- for which he was sentenced to five years. Five years for attempted murder? Here, the presumptive sentence for that (a class two felony, and dangerous offense) would be 10.5 years, and the max 21 years.

5 Comments | Leave a comment

rich | June 11, 2014 9:00 AM | Reply

A long time ago during the Foch administration the ACLU brought suite against the Mayor to get released a very mentally ill person, (Brown v Koch), who the city was putting in hospitals and institutions because her mental condition really prevented her from taking her meds, caring for herself and so on. The city was sort of acting like a parent to a child but it was much easier to have a person committed but temporarily and long term back then. The result of the lawsuit was that that the woman ended up back on the streets and after a while died but to lack of care but the bigger effect was it became almost impossible to commit someone both sort term and long. So many of the homeless were mentally ill. The commitment meant that the people got their meds and were able to lead something of a life with the possibility of getting enough help to maybe recover but that went down the tubes and we are still suffering the consequences today, i.e. the "mass" shooters we have seen lately.

rich | June 11, 2014 9:00 AM | Reply

sorry that is supposed to be the Koch administration

anononymous | June 13, 2014 5:50 AM | Reply

> He was in prison for attempted murder --
> for which he was sentenced to five years.

What is the penalty under the NY SAFE Act for possessing an illegal box with a spring inside of it?

Clayton E. Cramer | June 16, 2014 10:48 AM | Reply

Note that this guy had been hospitalized for psychiatric problems after trying to kill his mother. Of course, that wasn't for long.

My book My Brother Ron: A Personal and Social History of the Deinstitutionalization of the Mentally Ill (2012) includes a couple of pages about the Brown lawsuit. Mayor Koch was trying to do the right thing; the ACLU thought that Brown's essential dignity was impaired because she wasn't free to sleep on steam grates in freezing weather, poop in her pants, and scream at strangers.

rich | June 19, 2014 11:32 AM | Reply

I grew up in NYC and was living there during this time, it was amazing how fast everything deteriorated after that ruling. The place became a complete cesspool and often smelled like it too. I got out in '88 but by that time you could not drive anywhere with out some homeless person coming to clean your windshield with the grimiest rag you ever saw and my ride on the train from the wall street area to the last stop in Astoria would take about an hour longer than friends I knew were taking starting from the same location to reach Mahwah, NJ using the Path, then NJ Transit and then driving to their house. For reference that trip in the mid 70's use to take about 40-45 minutes.

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