Thoughts on the California shooting

http://www.upworthy.com/in-the-last-33-years-70-of-the-71-mass-murderers-in-the-us-all-had-1-thing-in-common?c=ufb1

......I guess Terry ( above ) isn't counting Waco against Janet Reno. The news reports that the Isla Vista shooter had been in therapy for mental / emotional problems since he was 8 years old......14 years. None of those professionals thought his symptoms required hospitalization. And none of that treatment prevented what occurred. Clayton Cramer's belief that a 5150 incarceration would have prevented these murders goes against my 32 years of experience of handcuffing them and taking them to the mental facilities, aka, the " never get well ward ". Most of the folks I took in were from the Golden Gate Bridge. Many had been that route several times before I met them. Most we're released before I finished my report. If I possibly could, I took them north to Marin General Hospital. The place is a lot cleaner but , better yet, it's farther away from that bridge. Took 'em longer to get back.
....I've had mental health folks beg me to book them for violations observed, since they'd seen these folks numerous times and they just toss their meds on leaving the facility. A judge has the authority of contempt. Mental health has no authority outside their walls. Mr. Cramer's contention that a 5150 hold would prevent this shooter from getting a weapon.....ludicrous. He knows better, so does every gun owner. Guns are easier to get than dope, all you need is money. This man had lots of money.

With every mass killing, even the most zealous protector of the right to keep and bear arms generally fails to point out the cause and the solution to these ongoing death tolls. All these killers without exception have been in the hands of psychiatrists and their only method of "treating" their patients is pharmaceutical poisons for which they are rewarded handsomely. Money from drug sales is practically their entire source of income. And the media, bloated with advertising dollars, turns its bloodstained face the other way. Psychiatry is a scourge and its product is a deranged personality capable of this level of destructiveness. Mind altering drugs alter personalities in the exact manner needed for such mayhem. The evidence is empirical. Each killer, behind him a psychiatrist (or complicit prescribing MD) and the cocktail of pharmaceutical poisons. The sole unremitting target of reform must be to awaken a slumbering middle class under the hypnosis of the media, so that they finally bring pressure to bear on legislators to do something.

Actually, a number of the mass murderers were not on any medications: Lanza for sure, and apparently Loughner. If the Navy Yard shooter was on any medications, it was not for long. His symptoms of paranoia preceded his treatment by the VA (who seemed to have missed his mental illness).

"Money from drug sales is practically their entire source of income." Uh, no. There are some unhealthy relationships between doctors and drug companies, no question, but most doctors make their money from insurance company reimbursements.

There are connections that you have to have to buy things that are, you know, illegal. If I wanted to buy meth, I would have a heck of a time doing so, not because it isn't available illegally but because I don't know those sort of people. It isn't clear how many such connections this guy had.

As I also pointed out, if the police had confiscated Rodger's guns, which might have at most have delayed his actions, he would still have had no problem murdering his roommates, and likely go on a stabbing rampage in Isla Vista.

Short-term hospitalization (when even that) for the severely mentally ill is the core problem.