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« Justice Ginsberg's view of the Second Amendment | Main | ATF HQ tries to block whistleblower's book on Fast & Furious »

NYPD police stood by while driver was savaged

Posted by David Hardy · 5 October 2013 10:54 AM

Short summary: Alexian Lien [name corrected -- hat tip to the commenter] and his family were driving down the Hudson Parkway behind a group of motorcyclists. One of the bikers apparently felt the family were encroaching on their "space" and so pulled in front of him and hit the brakes (it was no coincidence; you can see him looking back over his shoulder to gauge the result). Lien bumped him, and the rest of the motorcyclists began to attack Lien, smashing his window with a helmet, slashing his tires.

He gunned the engine, went over one of the motorcyclists, inflicting serious injuries, and the chase was on. They eventually caught up with him, and inflicted a serious beating

Now it turns out that at least five NYPD officers were among the motorcyclists, none of whom tried to stop the attack.

Yes, Bloomie, we know ... your police will protect us. You can reflect that it's a good thing the victim didn't have a gun, because this way there were no gun deaths to report.

15 Comments | Leave a comment

ARL | October 5, 2013 11:20 AM | Reply

You got the names wrong. Mieses is the biker that got run over by Alexian Lien, the driver of the Range Rover. Lien was beat up by other bikers, but AFAIK he's not hospitalized at this time.

5thofNov | October 5, 2013 4:30 PM | Reply

You know....Range Rover sales have just gone up. Now they can put "motorcycle gangs" as places that just can't stop a rover..lol.

rd | October 5, 2013 5:24 PM | Reply

Sorry, but What the ???? "Yes, Bloomie, we know ... your police will protect us."
The police have NO responsibility to protect. Do you not remember the civil suit where the ARMED NY Transit Police hid in a locked vestibule while an UNARMED citizen was attacked by a madman with a knife? The judge threw out his case, the police did nothing wrong by cowering and letting a citizen be attacked.

Rich | October 5, 2013 6:00 PM | Reply

There have been showings of an earlier video from that day that shows them going down a street, some in the proper lane others in the other lane and up on the side walk weaving in among the pedestrians. Forget about the cops protecting you they are probably breaking the law as much as the others.
You could see from the video shown on the news that the one biker decided to slow down and was looking to either get tapped or at least seriously harass. The way the range rover was surrounded the driver did not even have the option to move over or get off the road.

Mman | October 5, 2013 8:52 PM | Reply

...coming to a gun free zone near you!

Mman | October 5, 2013 8:53 PM | Reply

Notice that lately the best coverage of US news has been in UK papers. US papers pretty much don't want to hear about stuff like this.

"Watchdog media" indeed.

Texas Topcat | October 5, 2013 9:19 PM | Reply

As supporters of the Bill of Rights, we are always being attacked that we do not need guns and that the government will protect us. When we point out that 2A was intended to also protect the citizens from government gone astray, we are given the "tin hat" treatment. Well, here is a perfect example, the police were part of the gang of criminals that attacked the unarmed citizen. Is the DOJ and POTUS going to stand up to protect this SUV driver?

Joel Stoner | October 6, 2013 1:12 AM | Reply

Yes we know the Police have no duty to protect us, but Mayor Michael Bloomberg keeps saying that people in New York City do not need firearms because the police will protect them. That was the point of "Yes, Bloomie, we know ... your police will protect us.".

Rich | October 6, 2013 10:35 AM | Reply

This morning I heard something to the effect that the police in the group were undercover and did not want to blow that - and if you believe that I have a bridge for sale in NYC...

Stephen | October 6, 2013 2:23 PM | Reply

Actually had the victim drawn a firearm the NYPD on the scene probably would have drawn and opened fire on him. Probably fairly safe for the drive himself, but given past results could turn into a mass shooting of passers by ...

Mman | October 7, 2013 8:18 AM | Reply

If this driver had a legalized gun on him it would not have even escalated to breaking of windows. It would have ended in a bunch of bikers driving away from him in all directions as soon as he drew and pointed it at them, before the uniformed police even arrived. And that's the point - the police are generally good at surveying and documenting incidents after the fact, but horrible at actually stopping attacks in progress.

Rich | October 7, 2013 9:24 AM | Reply

MMAN:

It is almost impossible to have a legal handgun in NYC. Besides the undercover cops probably would have shot him if he drew it

Chas Clifton | October 7, 2013 3:59 PM | Reply

I like your blog, but if the Daily Mail says the sun comes up in the east, step outdoors and check for yourself.

Guest | October 8, 2013 8:14 PM | Reply

Now we here that one of the undercover/off-duty officers actually participated in the attack.

rich | October 10, 2013 4:43 PM | Reply

according to one news report there were several off duty cops including transit in the group. They were not on the job but there as riders so my question is where they hell are they finding these people to hire as police?

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