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« "Stop the NRA" protest march | Main | Interesting turn of evens »

One incredible fightfight

Posted by David Hardy · 26 April 2013 12:18 PM

The officer involved traditionally carried a .45 with 47 rounds of ammo, plus an AR-15 and a 12 gauge in his squad car. After this fire fight, he decided he was underarmed, and now carries 145 rounds for his handgun and 90 for his AR-15.

The officer was a firearms instructor, and made the right moves. He landed 14 solid hits out of 33 shots, which is exceptional under the conditions. But the perp was still shooting after taking 14 rounds of .45. I heard of a case in Phoenix where the bad guy took 3 rounds of 12 gauge buckshot, two in the trunk and one in the thigh, and kept on fighting.

Hat tip to reader David McCleary....

4 Comments | Leave a comment

James Madison | April 26, 2013 2:56 PM | Reply

I don't know why one would switch from carrying 47 rounds of .45 ACP to 145 of 9mm - seems like a wash to me. Would be interesting to know exactly what load he was carrying. I'd prefer a dozen 45 caliber 230 grain jacketed hollow points at 900fps over any amount of 9mm, any day. Didn't we learn this lesson over 100 years ago, in the Philippines?

Hartley | April 27, 2013 8:55 AM | Reply

I'm thinking he went to 9mm so he could carry more rounds (kinda like why Uncle Sam went from 7.62 to 5.56).

Want to raise your BP? Check out another article on that site: http://www.policeone.com/federal-law-enforcement/articles/6209839-20-years-after-Waco-The-lessons-we-learned/

Anonymous | April 28, 2013 7:49 AM | Reply

James/Hartley:

I have always wondered about using the lighter but faster ammo. During Vietnam I remember many saying that we switched because many of the troops could not hit the broadside of a barn but also that the Vietnamese could not handle the M14 and needed a lighter firearm. But in the jungles it worked fine.
Now we had reports that the 5.56 is to light and won't penetrate cars and the like and we need something heavier.

I have shot 5.56 and like it for the lack of recoil but I have friends you swear by the 7.63x39 AK round because it does not have much more recoil but a lot more punch. I guess that is why the 10mm was created.

wrangler5 | April 29, 2013 10:14 PM | Reply

Interesting story. Note that 66 of his 145 9mm rounds are in a pair of 33 round mags. Wonder how those will work out if he has to "prone out for a solid shooting platform" in the future? (Hint: the barrel of a Glock is 8.5 inches off the ground with the baseplate of a 33 round mag resting on the ground - not what *I* would call a solid shooting platform, although I suppose with practice you could make it so.)

Query - how can the "it's gotta start with a 4" crowd live this one down? Where's the one-shot-stop? A perp not on alcohol or drugs takes 11 hits from a 45, 6 of which should have been fatal, and doesn't quit until he gets 1 in the brain. (I'm assuming the 3 head shots were part of the 14 total hits.) I can't believe a 9mm with modern LE ammo wouldn't have been just as effective. And for the same weight of ammo the cop wouldn't have been close to running out.

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