DHS must really need ammo

Or to keep the maunfacturers busy making ammo for them so it's not available to civilians....

The destination is listed as "Arteia" New Mexico. I think that's probably supposed to be Artesia, NM - the location of the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. Practice makes perfect and all that...

I think this is a very ominous sign. This is what amounts to a Federal Police Agency purchasing huge amounts ammo. Let's not forget about the 7.62 and 5.56 NATO rifle request bids last year. These guys are preparing for war against the civilian population. There is nothing else you can say about it.

How many DHS employees carry service handguns or rifles? And how many rounds per employee is that?

Just think of all the surplus ammo that will become available in a few years!

Isn't this document a solicitation of bids? It's not a purchase order, it just locks the winner of the bid into a price for that amount of rounds.
That's what I'm seeing anyway.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

SWC, no - this is a request for a bid on that much ammunition, delivery to take place within 30 days of the award. They do IDIQ contacts sometimes, but this isn't one of them.

I also note that they really botched the "subcategory" or "Service Description" stuff - "30mm to 75mm" and in one place "75 up to 125mm"..:-)

Just take a look at all the DHS raids against civilians recently, and you'll get a pretty good idea what's underway.... and it ain't over!

What I find interesting is that the DHS evidently doesn't have to comply with the Geneva Convention rules for use of "ball" ammo for shooting people. Hollow points are infinitely more destructive.

I'm not sure these numbers are anything to get worked up about. A quick search indicates 230K DHS employees. If we assume, for the sake of argument, that 1/4 of the employees carry pistols, that's only 365 rounds per weapon - enough for a couple day's practice. If we assume 10%, that's still only 913/pistol.

That's not to say there aren't any OTHER worrisome signs, just that this one doesn't look like one.

Dave Hardy where did you get 21` million?

The unit of measure is MX, which is 1000; i.e. 100,000 rds of .40 hollowpoint, 100,000 rounds of 9mm hollowpoint, and 40,000 rounds of 9mm training ammo. 240,000 rds total.

For another, this is a small business set aside, for small ammo makers, not ATK.

This does not look like an attempt to corner the market in ammo or go to war with anyone. I don't know how FLETC works, but if they did six classes a year with 20 students in a class, and each fired 1000 rounds per class, that would be 120,000 rounds right there.

It would be a neat show of support for the 2A if ammo manufacturers would publicly commit to making sure that some given percentage of their output would be solely for non-government sales...

I need an education. Does the federal government actually use Roman Numerals for contract units? If they do, then M is 1000, MX is 1010, and M with a bar over it is 1,000,000. That makes the contract for 242,400 rounds. Truly, and odd number. But, I get back to.... Really, they use roman numerals?!!

If it is a contract for, roughly, 240,000 rounds. That is only "maybe" 20 times what a prudent individual would have on hand for personal use. Two trips to the range per month, say 25 trips to the range per year. That would be about 200 rounds per trip for an annual consumption of 5,000 rounds per year for an individual to stay reasonably competent.

I am a lot more worried that there are 230k DHS employees!!!!!

I wonder what the hollow points are for? Those aren't for target practice.