A tale of two cities

Last year Florida expanded our castle doctrine to include our automobiles. We can shoot a car jacker. This year’s publicity about the so called guns-at-work law helped spread the word about how many law abiding Floridians carry a gun in there car. Since 1987 Florida has trusted its honorable residents to bear arms and the experiment has been a great success.

However, I am one of the few Floridians who cannot leave a gun locked in my trunk while at work. Seems us college professors can’t be trusted. The new law only hurt me because my employer became aware that employs had the legal right to keep guns locked in their cars, and since colleges are exempt from the new law they created a new policy forbidding same.

Can any Florida attorneys out there tell me if the exemptions in the new law are constitutional? Se below:

The 14th amendment provide for equal protection. The 2nd amendment (and DC v Heller 2008) protects the right to keep and bear arms. Florida statute 790.251 protects gun owners, but has several exceptions. As a college professor my employer is exempt from the new law and therefore I am stripped of the right to bear arms while commuting to and from work. I am one of the very few Floridians who cannot leave a gun locked in my car while at work. Are the exemptions in the new law constitutional?

"provide" and "protect" are the wrong words. the amendments acknowledge them as rights. you protect your rights.

Not a lawyer, just a very well versed, self-taught, God fearing, gun lover:

UR scrood. In 1833, the supreme Court decided, albeit incorrectly, that the Bill of Rights did not bind the states. Beginning in the 1930s, the SC invented the doctrine of [selective] incorporation whereby the SC decides which of the BoR applies and to what extent. So unless your state Constitution protects you, ur scrood. Your legislators can take care of this with support from you and other professors. My U has signs all over No Firearms Allowed BUT in NM you car is an extension of your home and even the U can't stop you from having firearms in your car.

Now if we could just get the SC to overturn the error of Barron v Baltimore.

Grow a pair and just put your weapon i nyour car. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Dominus Providebit!

I always thought it was low when Michael Moore compared the number of gun deaths in the US to other little countries without even adjusting for population, let alone considering alternative weapons like knives. Not only have you just compared a city's number of murders to another city seven times larger, you twisted it even further by cherry picking a single month and comparing it to an entire year. *sigh*

On the plus side maybe this will help lessen my cynicism towards the other side.

Yes, let's adjust for population size and limit the stats to just this last month. You could even limit it to just "gun" murders. I'll do Miami ... hmmm, it's still zero. Anyone have Chicago?

Sure. Looks like Chicago is almost exactly 7 times larger than miami (2.8 million vs. 409K, wikipedia). With 431 murders in the 10 months so far this year, 431 / 7 / 12 = 6.2 average deaths per month so far this year per 409,000 population (to compare it to Miami, y'know).

i decided to compare it with my nearest big city, Portland, Oregon. 500k population, 27 murders in 2006. that's an average of a little more than 2 per month for a city slightly bigger than Miami. We've got pretty lax gun control here, too.

So hey, "Critic." So the comparison was a little off kilter, The point remains. Gun control sucks and obviously doesn't do anything positive for the community like reduce murder rates.
...Orygunner...

Now Critic, perhaps if you had ever bothered reading what 'the other side' is constantly regurgitating, that CCW causes crime, creates "Wild West" scenarios, that 'blood will run in the streets', and was passing out flyers warning people to stay away from Florida, you might understand the comparison.

Especially due to the fact that Chicago has every single 'reasonable gun control' law desired by the anti-gun groups plus some.

The Chicago information presented is out of date however. Chicago is currently seeing a spike in murders and violent crime this year (up 15%/4% so far), is posed to go past 500 murders by the end of the year, and has just regained the honorable title of murder capitol of the US.

Ok, Chuck. You have two choices. You can carry in your car and keep quiet about it. Or you can choose to be a victim. Is the university searching every car?

Ok people, no need to get hostile here.

Chuck did not say if he had anything in his car, just that he wasn't allowed to and asked for help making it legal. He may, he may not. He sure as hell isn't going to post that he violates the University rules on a page that anyone can read. He could very well be taking Chris's advise and keeping mute on the topic.

Everyone else regarding Critic.

Thank you Critic. I thought the same thing when I read that statistic on the top to. In my mind I thought, that's a biased way to present that information. However, I also know that when you put it out to a full year and adjust per capita, Chicago still out-murders all but 2-3 cities (in the USA) generally. I am very pro-ccw and 2a in general, but I want the most non-biased information presented. If you give them irrefutable information, they have to eat it. If you give "them" anything with a hint of bias, "they" disregard it. That goes for everything, not just firearms. That goes for everything that has controversy.

If critic can find any non-biased information to post for me I very much welcome it, but from the sound of it to me, he is not anti-gun, just anti-bias.