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« Now, this is a bit embarrassing... | Main | Freudian slip? »

Events in Maryland

Posted by David Hardy · 7 September 2008 10:59 AM

Posting here. Description is a bit overwraught, but essentially, a collector buys ammo from an FFL who keeps ammo records (not required) and gives them to the State Police. They show up at his house past midnight, because he bought ammo for guns for which there was no dealer record of their purchase. He explains he has a curio and relic license, and thus could acquire them without going thru a dealer.

10 Comments | Leave a comment

Jim K | September 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply

Makes me feel pretty good to live in a "backward" state like Mississippi that respects its citizens and the law.

Don Hamrkick | September 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply

If there were no search warrant or warrant for arrest wouldn't that have been a perfect situation to make a citizen's arrest of those Storm Troopers?

I mean what is a private citizen to do in the instant situation such as that? Overt resistance would likely get the private citizen shot and killed (plenty of history on that point). The only survivable alternative is to submit to the violation of rights at the onset of the invasion of the home and upon the first determination of a warrantless search and seizure the private citizen can make the citizen's arrest of the police. Is this not the correct procedure?

30yearProf | September 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply

Just because someone makes his living from gun sales (whether old S&W or this dealer) doesn't mean that they are "pro-gun." I would never purchase anything at all from a dealer who keeps records not required by law. In fact, I'd do what I could to see that he went out-of-business.

I'd do that to a ultra record keeping dealer in anything.

Turk Turon | September 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply

That is a very very troubling story.

No names, no uniforms, no warrant, no notice and no statute!

I think those officers are in desperate need of training on evidence and search warrants. Right away, before somebody gets hurt.

Jim | September 7, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply

I own ammo that does not fit into any guns I have. I think many gun owners do. Sometimes I just run across unusual ammo and buy a bit just to sit it on the shelf.

Carl in Chicago | September 7, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply

Good Lord!

Don't the MD state police have real business to attend?

Either that is not the complete story, or that's just incredible! The "system" flagged him. Darn that system. I hope the MD state police get slapped hard about this incident.

Tom | September 7, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply

When I tried to buy a shotgun at Big 5 Sporting Goods, the clerk wanted to fax a copy of my driver's license to "the FBI." This was in addition to the regular BATF form I needed to fill out. I asked her why she needed to fax my DL to anyone and she said it was "store policy." I terminated the transaction and left. A friend told me later that WalMart said they needed to keep a copy of his driver's license and took it to another room for copying. Who knows if they faxed to anyone (like police, FBI or local BATF).
I mentioned this to the local gun dealer who really IS knowledgeable about selling guns and he was surprised.

Paul H | September 8, 2008 12:20 AM | Reply

"Makes me feel pretty good to live in a "backward" state like Mississippi that respects its citizens and the law."

Despite the fact you and I agree with Mississippi's gun laws, it's still backwards. Do your homework; Mississippi was the last state (in 1966) to remove it's alcohol ban, full 30 years after the repeal of prohibition.


There is no libertarian paradise (maybe Vermont) in the US.

dagamore | September 8, 2008 5:39 AM | Reply

I know I am not the only one, that buys weird and odd caliber ammo just to have the ammo. But then my big problem comes up, about having ammo I cant use, so now I must get a gun for it. Right? :D

I used to work at Big5, and it faxing anything was not the store policy in any of the 3 stores I worked in. I was a manager at 2 of the 3 for a while. I will never shop there again, hell I did not shop there when I worked there and I got a 15% discount. Some of the people that worked at the Big5's I have seen are some of the worst people to be selling firearms. They literally did not know a bolt from a trigger, but they knew what forms to fill out and that’s about it.

straightarrow | September 8, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply

I don't think Corey May would agree with you Jim K.

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