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« .50 cal ban | Main | Prof. Sanford Levinson on Heller: why use originalism? »

John Lott's latest on "gun free zones"

Posted by David Hardy · 26 February 2008 12:01 PM

Right here.

"But, as happens time after time in these attacks when uniformed police are there, the killers either wait for the police to leave the area or they are the first people killed. In Kirkwood, the police officer was killed immediately when the attack started. People cowered or were reduced to futilely throwing chairs at the killer.

Just like attacks last year at the Westroads Mall in Omaha, Neb., the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City and the recent attack at the Tinley Park Mall in Illinois, or all the public school attacks, they had one thing in common: They took place in "gun-free zones," where private citizens were not allowed to carry their guns with them."

.......

"With about 5 million Americans currently with concealed handgun permits in the U.S., and with states starting to have right-to-carry laws for as long as 80 years, we have a lot of experience with these laws and one thing is very clear: Concealed handgun permit holders are extremely law-abiding. Those who lose their permits for any gun-related violation are measured in the hundredths or thousandths of a percentage point.

We also have a lot of experience with permitted concealed handguns in schools. Prior to the 1995 Safe School Zone Act, states with right-to-carry laws let teachers or others carry concealed handguns at school. There is not a single instance that I or others have found where this produced a single problem.
Though in a minority, a number of universities — from large public schools such as Colorado State and the University of Utah to small private schools such as Hamline in Minnesota — let students carry concealed handguns on school property.

Many more schools, from Dartmouth College to Boise State University, let professors carry concealed handguns. Again, with no evidence of problems.

Few know that Dylan Klebold, one of the two Columbine killers, was closely following Colorado legislation that would have let citizens carry a concealed handgun. Klebold strongly opposed the legislation and openly talked about it."

Hat tip to Don Kates...

5 Comments | Leave a comment

Chris | February 26, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply

Was the police officer who stopped the Trolly Square shooter trespassed by the mall for violating their no-guns policy?

Chas S. Clifton | February 27, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply

I teach at Colorado State University's Pueblo campus (the smaller one), and I know that students are not permitted to have weapons (including Airsoft and paintball guns) in residence halls.

I have been all over our Web site looking for other items relating to firearms. I did find this on an older page, but I expect nothing has changed:

"Activities which will render students or non-students subject to disciplinary action are as follows: ....19) possessing or using illegal or unauthorized firearms, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or other weapons on university-owned or controlled property;

Nothing about faculty though. Colorado law prohibits concealed carry in K-12 schools but says nothing about higher education.

wizardPC | February 28, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply

Chas, I'm afraid that faculty would be the "non-students" they are referring to.

Chas S. Clifton | February 29, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply

Wizard, you might be right, but it's never been tested in court. I suspect--but cannot prove--that the language refers to people not "members of the university community," because faculty members have other rules governing their behavior. But, as I said, never tested.

Tim Baxter | April 11, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply

"illegal or unauthorized firearms"

You wouldn't be carrying one of those, would you? I'd hope you'd carry a legal firearm, that the state has authorized you to carry.

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