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« "Empty Holsters Protest" at U of Ky this week | Main | Texas Land Commissioner bars sale to Park Service »

More on New York's "musket loophole"

Posted by David Hardy · 23 October 2007 05:56 PM

On ABC Channel 7:

"Last week, The Investigators went undercover to expose a gaping loophole in New York state's gun laws. Now Governor Eliot Spitzer is promising to examine the problem more closely."
.....
"The black powder rifle's exemption from gun laws is one of the last remaining major gun loopholes in the state of New York. But the days of buying this deadly weapon no questions asked may be numbered.
Our undercover investigation showed with alarming clarity just how easy it is to get a black powder rifle in New York."

· media

14 Comments | Leave a comment

b | October 23, 2007 6:14 PM | Reply

Did they show with alarming clarity how much of a problem this has been for NY?

TJH | October 23, 2007 6:56 PM | Reply

Yes. It's that damn deer lobby again. Just follow the money... and the trail of cracked corn.

Gregg | October 23, 2007 7:19 PM | Reply

Yeah, gotta watch out for those Amish drive-bys.

"Clippety clop, clippety clop, clippety clop. BANG, clippety clop, clippety clop."

countertop | October 23, 2007 8:09 PM | Reply

I obviously got ripped off.

My evil .50 caliber sniper rifle hasn't shot anyone, or anything, in at least a week. And it spent all of yesterday sitting harmlessly in my lap as easy targets (read: airplanes) flew overhead, blissfully unaware of the terrorist danger that lurked below.

geekWithA.45 | October 23, 2007 8:13 PM | Reply

No! No! No! It's not

"Clippety clop, clippety clop, clippety clop. BANG, clippety clop, clippety clop."

it's

"Clippety clop, clippety clop, clippety clop. Click FAWOOOMPH-POP, clippety clop, clippety clop."

Did the article happen to mention the last time someone knocked over a bank or liquor store with a flintlock? 1870 something?

Jim W | October 23, 2007 9:08 PM | Reply

Apparently they didn't read my email about closing the convicted rapist loophole where they let unreformed felons run around in public.

Gregg | October 24, 2007 1:26 AM | Reply

Ahhh, but Geek, theyy are willing to use the modern percussion cap system which minimizes that FAWOOMPH. Sheesh, they're not TOTAL luddites.

AFAIK, holding people up with a flintlock went out of style by 1860 or so, probably earlier. Heck we were up to percussion cap systems by the ACW, and even had cartridge firearms then.

OTOH, that "loophole" really isn't that wide since we can't buy bloody Colt peacemakers, Henry Rifles, Springfield Trap Doors, Winchester yellow boys (1866) or Winchester '73s without going through the whole NICS BS and all of them were designed for the Holy Black.

Ahab | October 24, 2007 6:41 AM | Reply

The very first anti-gun person I see that says "why would you need a .54 caliber rifle for deer" is going to get punched in the mouth for being a retard.

Andy Freeman | October 24, 2007 7:51 AM | Reply

CA already treats muzzle loaders as other firearms.

steveH | October 24, 2007 8:26 PM | Reply

Andy,

When did that happen? I know I haven't bought any new blackpowder guns in a while, but still...

Doug in Colorado | October 25, 2007 11:06 AM | Reply

Hey...I thought muskets were the ONLY kind of gun protected by the Second Amendment...and quill pens and the unamplified human voice the only things protected by the First...right?

Norman | October 29, 2007 5:01 AM | Reply

THE MEDIA as usual has it all wrong "loophole" There is no loophole
Antiques and replicas
Excempt from permit and certificate of registration requirements are antique rifles and shotguns incapable of being fired or dischatged orwhich do not fire fixed ammunition or those weapons manufactured prior to 1894 and replicas for which ammunition is not commercially available

Pauly | April 20, 2009 10:26 AM | Reply

Glad that I live in Fla, I was born and raised inNY been here 20 years have lots of fun with BP and belong to a BP gun club of veterens.army navy & usmc

bg | December 29, 2009 2:40 PM | Reply

I just spent $600.00 on a new muzzleloader just to find that I'm unable to buy gunpowder to actually use it!

This is not exactly an assault rifle, I planned on using it to harvest a deer or two to feed my family this year. Anyone who has knowledge of these rifles knows that they are meant for one shot and a clean and humane kill.

I could have easily purchased a semi-auto, or bolt action rifle with much more range and accuracy but my intention was for hunting at a reasonable range.

I served my country in combat and feel that I'm qualified to purchase hunting supplies and use them correctly!?!?

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