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« Madison's notes on the Bill of Rts | Main | Internal FBI audit on data collection »

Pizza Hut manager defends self, gets fired

Posted by David Hardy · 13 June 2007 09:26 PM

Fox News has the story. He held a CCW license, BTW.

They had a robbery like that here -- none of the employees were armed, one of the robbers thought they'd recognized him, so they murdered them all.

[Hat tip to Budd Schroeder]

9 Comments | Leave a comment

Rudy DiGiacinto | June 14, 2007 11:24 AM | Reply

Antonio Feliciano v. 7 - Eleven, Inc. WVA (2001). The West Virginia Supreme Court upheld that the employee firing for carrying at work , a 7-11, violated the state's public policy.

"In conclusion, we answer the question certified by the United States District Court for the Northern District of West Virginia in the affirmative, but with limitation. Thus, the right of self-defense in response to lethal imminent danger is a substantial public policy exception to the at will employment doctrine and will support a cause of action for wrongful discharge. An aggrieved employer may then rebut the presumption of a wrongful discharge by demonstrating that it had a plausible and legitimate business reason for terminating its employee.


I don't think Pizza Hut has any legitimate business reason to allow their employees to be sheep for the slaughter. If they do, its Make my own pizza night.

Rudy DiGiacinto | June 14, 2007 11:28 AM | Reply

Actually in the case above, the employee was not carrying, they only disarmed the robber which was in violation of company policy to resist a robbery.

tom gunn | June 15, 2007 6:17 PM | Reply

Pizza Hut jobs are a dime a dozen lives are a bit moore expensive.

Besides I wouldn't eat at pizza hut on a bet or a dare.

tom gunn

bblaney | June 15, 2007 9:12 PM | Reply

I worked for Pizza Hut for many years and have been robbed at gun point twice, and I agree with their policy. With a firearm it brings a sense of bravado. I am not saying that what he did was wrong, but acting or not acting could of brought about the deaths of both the manager and the employee.

KRL | June 16, 2007 3:40 PM | Reply

If what you say is true then it sounds like Pizza Hut has a problem for failing to ensure a reasonably safe working environment. If they can't ensure the safety of their employees, then they should be held responsible for a policy that prevents employees from defending themselves.

JRD | June 17, 2007 7:29 AM | Reply

Pizza Hut fired a delivery driver (CCW holder) in Indiana a few years back for defending himself from an armed robber.
My family hasn't eaten there since.

HKL | June 17, 2007 11:56 AM | Reply

So we need to find out a contact email for Pizza Hut to express that self defense is preferable.

Pizza Hut can be assured of one thing, many of their customers will be armed.

HKL | June 17, 2007 12:15 PM | Reply

www.pizzahut.com

email to Pizza Hut:

You recently fired an employee in Florida for using a firearm in self defense.

This is irresponsible, as Pizza Hut cannot insure people's safety. We are dissappointed in your mentality. Are you prepared for being sued for not providing safety? You provide a "gun free zone", which is always inviting to criminals. This endangers your customers also!

One thing Pizza Hut can count on, is that many customers will be armed for self deffense. Those of us that will still frequent your business.

Critic | June 18, 2007 10:43 PM | Reply

I think there is a clear financial advantage to Pizza Hut because if a robber shoots employees or customers, I'm guessing Pizza Hut isn't financially responsible at all. Or maybe just for a workers compensation claim. But if an employee accidentally shoots a customer, then Pizza Hut would, I'm guessing, be fully liable.

If there was some way to make Pizza Hut pay for wrongful death on the people who would have lived if Pizza Hut had allowed their employees to save their lives by shooting the bad guys, then maybe they would change their policy.

Robberies may not be all that expensive anyway. Places prone to robbery probably drop nearly all of their money in the safe as the night progresses anyway. The employees can't get it out. Even one bullet hole in a piece of restaurant equipment or a window could easily cost more than the typical robbery. Of course a lower frequency of robberies could shift that equation a lot. Also, for a robbery investigation the cops might be in and out in minutes or an hour or two. For a shooting, the business might be closed down for a lot longer.

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