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« James Q. Wilson on gun control | Main | Podcast on the documentary »

Kennesaw GA v. Morton Grove IL

Posted by David Hardy · 20 April 2007 10:27 AM

An interesting article in World Net Daily. It begins with the note that Kennesaw passed its ordinance requiring all residents to be armed in 1982 -- and hasn't had a gun fatality in the 25 years since.

5 Comments | Leave a comment

Nomen Nescio | April 20, 2007 12:53 PM | Reply

Kennesaw, AFAIK, is a small town that never had much crime to begin with; how many fatalities has it had in the quarter century before 1982?

Morton Grove is, i believe, a suburb of Chicago; it may very well have grown considerably in the last 25 years. the statistics need not be comparable.

(and no, Dave, much as i like you even from back in my Usenet days, you won't convince me to waste a second of my time on WND. i'm open-minded, but not to the point my brain's fallen out.)

tom gunn | April 20, 2007 3:00 PM | Reply

I don't want my cherished beliefs challenged either so WND is out for me too.


Which reminds me - Bush fires right of appoingment attornies and he needs a satisfactory reason clinton fired right of appointment attornies and he needed no reason. Obviously A ≠ A.

BTW I'm not going to argue about it.

tom gunn

steveH | April 20, 2007 6:14 PM | Reply

Nomen,

Check a map; Kennesaw is a suburb of Atlanta. It's adjacent to Marietta, and about 12 mi. from Atlanta's center.

straightarrow | April 20, 2007 8:00 PM | Reply

No men, already knows he is wrong. That is why he refuses to look at the quantifiable data. However, his sense of self-importance would wither were he not to pretend superiority of his humanity over those of us who actually find murder repugnant.

If he did, he would not insist that good people be at the mercy of monsters.

No men, think about this. Helplessness has been proven absolutely consistently to not be a security measure. Never has it worked in favor of a victim.

I have no choice but to assume you approve of heinous acts, else you would not be a proponent of the major component of their enablement.

Nomen Nescio | April 20, 2007 8:38 PM | Reply

quantifiable data i like looking at, i just consider WND to be a more than slightly unhinged propaganda outlet. frankly, if the WND ran a headline saying the sun had come up that morning, i'd look out the window to doublecheck; i just don't have *any* respect for or trust in them.

nor do i by any means insist that anybody should be defenseless. i'm one of those rare birds, the pro-gun leftists. my gripe here is with the reliability of the WND, not with the principle of self-defense.

steveh, thanks for the wake-up call; i _should_ have checked google maps rather than speculate. it definitely seems like a larger town than i thought it was, at around 30,000 citizens as of a couple years ago. it also seems to be growing at a good clip, having more than tripled since 1982.

crimewise, however, the ordinance doesn't seem to have had that great an effect; a google search finds analyses of the FBI's uniform crime reports that purport crime rates have been pretty stable. other reports claim similar results from GA state figures. that's pretty much what i said, but considering how wrong i was about the population level, i'm considerably more impressed now.

(really, since the thing was passed so long ago and most of the people now living there have moved in since, i'd be amazed if most Kennesaw residents knew of it. nobody's ever been prosecuted for violating it, either, not that the ordinance even lists any penalties for breaking it.)

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