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« Thanksgiving tale | Main | Richmond Times-Dispatch on Webb, Allen and parks »

Allen v. Webb on guns in National Parks

Posted by David Hardy · 24 November 2006 07:52 PM

I'd mentioned earlier outgoing Sen. George Allen's introduction of a bill to allow firearms in National Parks. The NY Times went predictably berserk. "Senator Allen’s bill is, of course, being cheered by the gun lobby, which sees it not as an assault on public safety but as a way of nationalizing the armed paranoia that the National Rifle Association and its cohorts stand for." Some blogs have chimed in: "And LASTLY, and probably what jumped out at me the most, is the plea to call Frist and get this "rushed" through the now lame-duck Republican Congress. THIS is how the Republicans are spending their time and energy? To make sure people can shoot people and animals in a park, hiding behind their "everyone is out to get me" self-defense argument?"

Hmmm.... Jim Webb, the Demo who defeated Allen, had an interesting response: "Webb promised in an Oct. 30 campaign letter to introduce similar legislation, citing his enjoyment of target-shooting and the fact that he has had a concealed-carry permit for years."

I suspect he's going to make some heads spin in coming years. The media, and many others, see the world as knee-jerk left vs. right (with both arbitrarily defined). Guys like him don't fit that mold.

6 Comments | Leave a comment

Jim | November 24, 2006 11:18 PM | Reply

Whiule they are at it, how about rushing through national concealed carry or national reciprocity!

Sebastian | November 25, 2006 10:08 AM | Reply

I'd agree with you Jim, but the federalist in me has issues with National CCW. One thing I wonder though, do we really need to wait for the Supreme Court to incorporate the second amendment? If I recall the 14th amendment gives Congress power to enforce its provisions legislatively. Maybe they Congress could use the 14th amendment as grounds for eliminating onerous state laws.

Sebastian | November 25, 2006 10:10 AM | Reply

I'd agree with you Jim, but the federalist in me has issues with National CCW. One thing I wonder though, do we really need to wait for the Supreme Court to incorporate the second amendment? If I recall the 14th amendment gives Congress power to enforce its provisions legislatively. Maybe Congress could use the 14th amendment as grounds for eliminating onerous state laws.

Richard | November 25, 2006 4:33 PM | Reply

Gun permits should be honored nationwide as drivers liscenses.
People forget how effective personal gun ownership is. TakeViet nam where the people had guns and stopped our armies in their tracks. The same in Iraq. Its the personally owned guns that stop interference from other countries. Wether we like it or not, it IS effective.

The Mechanic | November 27, 2006 6:18 PM | Reply

No, the army got stopped in its tracks by the likes of Hanoi Jane Kerry and their ilk getting taken seriously by WAY too many politicians and unelected policy makers.

freerifleman | December 5, 2006 3:20 PM | Reply

I think the point on the CCW "Permit" issue is that everyone seems compelled to ask for "permission" for something they are already garanteed by the 2nd Amendment...

Permission means it can be removed, and that, gentleman, is why I do not submit to their silly permit scheme. Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six...

Stop allowing our second amendment to be dismantled, which means not to take the table scaps the master allows you to have and be satisfied...

"The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." – John Hay, Castilian Days II, 1872

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