Transcript of my time on CNN Headline News
It's here. Relevant part in extended remarks below.
BECK: Michael Moore has opened his big, fat mouth -- see, now, I don`t mean to say that. That`s just unkind. I`m sorry. I didn`t mean big, fat mouth. I meant large, rotund mouth. He spouted off to actor and possible presidential candidate Fred Thompson, calling him a hypocrite for criticizing Moore`s anti-American pro-Cuban health care documentary.
Moore says that Thompson has received numerous contributions from the health care industry and isn`t bashful about enjoying a Cuban cigar. Moore challenged Thompson to a debate, and Thompson responded with a video, which aired on Breitbart TV. Watch this and savor every second.
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FRED THOMPSON, ACTOR AND FORMER SENATOR: You know, I`ve been looking at my schedule, Michael, and I don`t think I have time for you. But I may be the least of your problems.
You know, the next time you`re down in Cuba visiting your buddy, Castro, you might ask him about another documentary filmmaker. His name is Nicolas Guillen. He did something Castro didn`t like, and they put him in a mental institution for several years, giving him devastating electroshock treatments. Mental institution, Michael. Might be something you ought to think about.
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BECK: I love Breitbart. Thank you. And Fred Thompson, thank you.
The Cuban filmmaker that Thompson was just talking about was an award- winning documentary maker who made a movie that mocked Fidel Castro. Joining me now, Calixto Navarro from the Cuban Democratic Directorate and Dave Hardy. He`s the author of Michael Moore bio, "Big Fat Stupid White Man."
Calixto, let me start with you. The guy that Fred Thompson was talking about, tell me about him. What`s his story?
CALIXTO NAVARRO, CUBAN DEMOCRATIC DIRECTORATE: Well, he was a documentary -- he did documentaries. He was an artist. He passed away on the 22nd of July in 2003. But he was tortured, literally tortured in Cuba, for doing -- he was basically ridiculing Castro for deciding that he wanted to make this agricultural zone around the capital city of Havana. And he ordered -- Castro is not an agricultural -- or knows anything about agriculture, and he had everybody rip up all their traditional food, you know, plants that provided food to the city, and decided to make this agricultural area around the city.
It was a total disaster. And so Nicolas Guillen made this documentary about it. So anybody who criticized during that period in the `60s, that criticized Castro, you know what? You had to be crazy. So he was taken to the hospital, a psychiatric hospital, and given extreme numbers of electroshocks, because he had to be crazy.
BECK: For like 10 years, right?
NAVARRO: Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. He was jailed, and then finally he left. He went into exile, and he resided in Miami where he died.
BECK: Dave, help me out. Why is it all of these -- you have Oliver Stone, you have Michael Moore -- all of Hollywood runs to these dictators like Castro, and embraces them, and says, "Oh, look at how great they are." What are they thinking?
DAVE HARDY, AUTHOR, "BIG FAT STUPID WHITE MAN": I think it`s just a love of the exotic. Anything which is non-American or, better yet, un- American is appealing to them. And so they have to run around and find that sort of thing. And if you`re looking for a Communist dictator in this world, there aren`t a whole lot of them left.
BECK: They do have -- and either of you guys that has an answer on this -- they do have this two-tiered health care system in Cuba. And, you know, this is what people like Michael Moore always rail about, "Oh, the poor can`t afford it." Well, the poor don`t get it in Cuba.
NAVARRO: Yes, and I would like to clarify. Medicine in Cuba is based on your loyalty to the government. If you are a military personnel, you go to a special hospital. If you are of the nomenclature, well, you get like the five-star treatment. You have all the best facilities. And I`m sure that that`s where Michael Moore went.
But I`m sure Michael Moore did not bother to visit where my family lives in Cuba and visit the hospital where they have to go, where there are no bed sheets, there`s no food, well, basically, food stuff for the prisoners. There`s really a tough, tough situation for the regular Cuban, the 11 million Cubans that are on the island.
And that is the part of Cuba that most Americans aren`t aware of. They say, "Free health care." It`s not free health care. They don`t have it. The only people that have it are the people of the nomenclature.
BECK: Hey, Dave, Michael Moore said that, not only is Elian Gonzalez back in Cuba than here, he actually said Elian Gonzalez`s mother would be better off in Cuba. Did he mean if she would have made it here alive or better in Cuba than dead?
HARDY: Lord only knows. I just know that he is basically, as you say, worshipping the Cuban establishment, because it`s the only anti- American establishment he could reach.
BECK: Do you think he believes this stuff, Dave? I mean, here he`s got these books out...
BECK: ... where he says you can`t make it in America, because everything is against you. And I think, here is a fat, ugly guy, with very -- and he comes from a very poor family, who`s flying around on a private jet. If he can make it, anybody can make it. Go ahead, Dave.
HARDY: He is all that he hates. Face it. He is all that he hates. He`s a very rich, white American male. He has a $1.9 million house in New York. He`s got a $1.2 million vacation place in Michigan, flies on private jets, at least on one occasion stayed in a $1,200 hotel room, goes to his documentary shoots in a limousine. He doesn`t travel with the film crew.
BECK: I`m sure he stopped traveling in the jets now just because of the C0-2 that he`s putting out. Gentlemen, thanks a lot. We`ll be back with your e-mail here in just a second.