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Jim Webb staffer incident

Posted by David Hardy · 26 March 2007 08:36 PM

Word in DC is that a staffer of Sen. Jim Webb was arrested for carrying pistol, possibly his own, into a Senate building. I thought Webb showed great potential for becoming the Right Sort of Democrat, and this tends to confirm it.

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If the press reports are right, the outrageous thing about the story is that members of Congress have the right to possess firearms on federal property when no other non-law enforcement federal employees have such a right. I am a federal agency attorney out in the field (a/k/a the real world) and we do not have any security at all in our building. While I have a CCW permit, my state specifically prohibits the carrying of a CW in a government office building. Hell, if I carry a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2.5" long into my office building, I am technically in violation of federal law.

Equal rights under the law, I say!

Posted by: Letalis at March 26, 2007 08:46 PM

Prosecute to the fullest. If citizens have to jump through hoops and twist into pretzels to do the governments bidding, so should other citizens who happen to work for congressmen. Let the congressmen change the law if they don't like it.

And while they are at it, I wish someone would ask for the import papers for Saddam's Highpower pistol that Bush keeps in the Oval Office, plus his permit. The troops certainly can't bring anything back.

Posted by: Robert at March 26, 2007 09:19 PM

CURRENTLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SECOND AMENDMENT CASES:

ARKANSAS Hamrick's Civil Case: Possession in open carry of a handgun in intrastate and interstate travel.

ARKANSAS Fincher's Criminal Case: Criminal Case: Possession of a homemade machinegun for militia service and/or non-militia service.

DC Parker's Civil Case: Possession of firearms in the home.

DC Thompson's Criminal Case: Possession of a handgun (1) outside the home, (2) in a federal building.

I say those 4 cases present a well rounded frontal attack on State and Federal gun control laws. Do I dare declare that we have the Federal Government on the Defensive? Or will the belligerence of the Federal Courts and the U.S. Department of Justice prevail?

Posted by: Don Hamrick at March 26, 2007 09:51 PM

The AP story:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8O44EEG0&show_article=1

According to the story the pistol and magazines belonged to Webb, who handed them over to his assitant when Webb was dropped off at the airport. That's not terribly responsible of Webb to hand over his pistol to someone that does not have reasonable cognizence (sp?) of the various gun laws bewteen Virginia and DC.

I nearly had a heart attack when I was carrying (legally) concealed in Virginia and a wrong turn put my wife and I on a bridge into DC. My only recourse was to sweat, explain the situation clearly to my wife in case of an incident, and find the nearest and fastest route to Virginia.

Because this is a federal office building I'm guessing it's not relevant (yet) under Parker because Parker challenged DC's gun ban, not the federal gun ban on federal property.

As far as gun rights are concerned, this is not a positive case or incident for the community, but it will be interesting to see the press spin in regards to the treatment of the (D) Senator that won back Virginia.

Posted by: Chris at March 26, 2007 11:28 PM

The simple fact is DC gun law prevents PEOPLE, all PEOPLE from carrying a gun, wrapped, unwrapped, in fish paper, anyway -- Period. The Congress gives no special privileges to it's own, does it? And how about staffers?


This guy "meant no harm", yeah well I don't think so, prosecute him, who knows what he was really doing. For all I know he was going to make good on Webb's desire to punch out the President.


If this was Joe six pack strolling down the street, what would the police do to them? Do the same to the staffer.


How does Webb walk around DC with a gun? Spin it boys, you going to need all the help you can to get your comrade out of this one.

Posted by: bill at March 27, 2007 06:55 AM

Let's see how Teddy Kennedy, Diane Feinstein, Charles Shumer, Carolyn McCarthy, and too many others to list handle this one. I can hear the silence now.

Only those of privilige, and 12 million illegal immigrants, can violate the law with no consequence.

Get used to it.

Posted by: Roger.45 at March 27, 2007 08:00 AM

Legally, the aide is in deep ----, but as he is part of the ruling class, nothing will happen to him. The usual suspects will be 'outraged' for the benefit of the press, and it will be quietly forgotten.

BTW: It is definitely illegal for a DC resident to lend/loan/rent a [legally registered] gun to someone else. It's not clear to me if that presents a problem for Webb as (according to the story) he turned the gun over to the aide while in VA. Certainly, I would like to see Webb up to his nose in it as well - but I know that's not going to happen.

Posted by: anon at March 27, 2007 08:38 AM

Webb is a bully and as much as the gun rights community needs pro-gun Dems, Webb will do us more harm than good. Webb is no Zell Miller.

Posted by: David Adams at March 27, 2007 10:11 AM

According to Fox news, The Aide has hired Richard Gardiner as his attorney. As many of you know, Richard Gardiner is a constituttional Law lawyer and I believe helped on the first D.C. gun ban case before Parker.

Posted by: Rudy DiGiacinto at March 27, 2007 12:45 PM

Webb is not handling this very well. His statements make him look terribly elitist.

Posted by: Letalis at March 27, 2007 03:09 PM

The aide said it's Webb's gun. Now, Webb denies that. He's letting his good soldier fall on his grenade. Webb writes a good story but he doesn't live up to his own fiction.

Posted by: 30yearprof at March 27, 2007 04:34 PM

Parker was the first case.

Gardiner was an attorney in Seegars, filed months after our case, but decided first.

Posted by: Alan Gura at March 27, 2007 06:58 PM

And while they are at it, I wish someone would ask for the import papers for Saddam's Highpower pistol that Bush keeps in the Oval Office, plus his permit. The troops certainly can't bring anything back.

Sigh. The troops certainly can bring things like that back, and many have. You just fill out the appropriate ATF form for an import.

Where some have got into deep trouble is bringing back things without the paperwork OR bringing back full-autos which thanks to the Hughes Amendment you can't get the paperwork to do.

Posted by: Gildas at March 27, 2007 09:45 PM

Webb's silence suggests that he's going to make the same transition from pro-gun to ignoring guns (at best) or mildly anti-gun (more common).

It's the transition that Dems make when they try to become "national". Gore did the same thing.

If Webb doesn't do it, he'll be one of the few (only) to buck the pattern. If he makes this transition, he'll only validate the position that Dems can't be trusted on guns, no matter what folks (like Webb) who can't get elected locally as anything other than pro-gun do.

Posted by: Andy Freeman at March 30, 2007 06:39 PM

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