California: Gov. Jerry Brown signs some gun laws, vetoes others
The major bill he signed bans use of lead projectiles in hunting; the major one he vetoed would have expanded the ban on "assault rifles" to include any semiauto with a detachable magazine. The others:
"Among other bills Brown signed Friday were SB 683 by Sen. Marty Block, D-San Diego, to require long-gun buyers to earn safety certificates like those already required of handgun buyers; AB 48 by Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, to ban conversion kits that allow people to turn regular magazines into high-capacity magazines; AB 231 by Assemblyman Phil Ting, D-San Francisco, which makes it a crime to leave a loaded firearm somewhere a child is likely to be able to get it without permission; and AB 1131 by Skinner, to extend from six months to five years the prohibition from owning firearms for those who've described a credible violent threat to a psychotherapist.
Other bills Brown vetoed SB 567 by Sen. Hannah Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, which would have updated the definition of an illegal shotgun to include a shotgun with a revolving cylinder and a rifled bore; SB 755 by Sen. Lois Wolk, D-Vacaville, which would have expanded the list of convicts who can't legally own guns to include those with multiple drug or alcohol crimes, street gang members and others; and AB 169 by Assemblyman Roger Dickinson, D-Sacramento, which would have tightened exemptions to the law prohibiting purchase of handguns that haven't been tested and deemed safe by the state."
...Jim D. assured us here that Governor Moonbeam was not pro gun control. The Governor also signed AB711, outlawing lead bullets for hunting.
...I wonder how many folks were led astray by Jims assurances ?
Posted by: Dave D. at October 11, 2013 03:16 PM
okay so the next step will be to ban lead ammo at outdoor ranges because of the wildlife and...
They will let you own you firearm just not shoot it
Posted by: Rich at October 11, 2013 03:22 PM
...You got it, Rich. And also, require anyone having more than 1000 rounds of ammunition to get an arsenal permit and suffer yearly inspection, plus store to Liberals requirements.
Posted by: Dave D. at October 11, 2013 03:55 PM
Hi Dave D.! Haven't heard from you in awhile. Yes, I said that. Based on his tendencies as Attorney General, it was true. He turned the offices responsible for prosecuting gun crimes from a division to a bureau, and fully 70% of the attorneys left. In fact, fewer gun control laws were passed under Gray Davis than Pete Wilson. But that's probably another inconvenient truth for you.
As for how many I've led astray? Well, besides you, I suspect not many. Most readers here take every opinion with a grain of salt.
Posted by: Jim D. at October 11, 2013 05:13 PM
...At least from now on they'll take you opinion for what it's worth. Nada.
Posted by: Dave D. at October 11, 2013 06:29 PM
It is fascinating that Brown chickened out of signing the more egregious of a lot of very bad bills.
Posted by: SPQR at October 11, 2013 06:42 PM
...They'll be back. I especially (dis) liked the one banning dui's from ever owning a gun. That would disenfranchise about 10-15% of the population. But since dui's drop off your driving record after 7 years, how would the F&G cop ever know ?
...Browns sign a few, don't sign a few record goes way back. It's his modus operandi, and it fools the weaker minded folk. So does his I-own-a-gun mantra. Fools that want to believe him, believe him.
Posted by: Dave D. at October 11, 2013 07:00 PM
The ban on lead ammunition for hunting contains a provision that allows Fish and Wildlife to continue allowing its use if they determine that there is no alternative ammunition available that doesn't fall under the fed's armor-piercing ban. So his signing it is purely symbolic, which is to say ineffectual. In fact, just about all of the laws that he signed add up to less than a bucket of warm spit (the ban on new magazine rebuild kits after 1-1-14 being the exception). Brown's veto statement on AB 374, the semi auto ban, was pretty good: it indicates that he makes decisions based on logic and facts and not emotion and ideology.
The fact is that Jerry Brown is the best Democrat that gun owners can hope for, which is to say the best governor we can hope for as long as the Republicans keep launching candidates that may satisfy a masochistic desire for ideological purity but that alienate the centrist-leaning-left-on-social issues majority here in Kali.
Posted by: Scott Connors at October 12, 2013 10:18 AM
....Oh, such sophistry Scott. And who appoints the director of Fish and Wildlife ? The same Governor who signed the law. And who funds the Dept. ? The same Legislature that passed the law.
...F&W will do whatever they're told to do. The legislative Lefties who forced a F&W manager to resign because he legally hunted a cougar out of state will stop at nothing to end California hunting. AB 711 is the way they'll do it.
...Jerry Brown is a cull, and being " the best Democrat " isn't an opinion of interest but no value.
Posted by: Dave D. at October 12, 2013 12:43 PM
...CORRECTION : ....IS an opinion of interest but no value.
Posted by: Dave D. at October 12, 2013 12:45 PM