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Chicago's handgun ban
Chicago's attempt at banning handguns makes that of DC look like a success.
Of course to the city government that's just proof that if there was more regulation of private firearms, it'd work even better. I recall once reading an advocate of Prohibition, after its repeal, still arguing that it would have work if just there had really been a complete ban on alcohol. I forget now what the exceptions were (all tightly regulated), I know there was one for religious services, may have been others for medical use or industrial uses. The author was convinced that these kept the "idea" of alcohol alive and if they'd just have been cut off then the Great Experiment would have succeeded. Sure, Al Capone would have felt a moral duty to straighten out.
Comments
Yes, this weekend has been a mad-house. Some communities have simply spun out of control. The people living there only seem to do two things....cry for help and blame the system.
The system, it seems, can only do one thing - urge for yet more gun control as if this time, if it were just more strict, it would work.
Posted by: Carl in Chicago at April 20, 2008 07:15 PM
Gonna be a long hot summer in the windy city.
Posted by: Letalis Maximus, Esq. at April 20, 2008 07:38 PM
I don't think a complete ban on Guns and Alcohol would have stopped Big Al Capone.
Posted by: Tom at April 20, 2008 08:31 PM
Is someone finally going to say the obvious? The police in Chicago have failed to keep the peace. Failed. Not for all their numbers and obvious presence in the city (I've been numerous times). Time for the people to step up for their own safety - the guberment ain't doin' the job. Another law, a stricter gun ban won't fix this.
Posted by: RKV at April 21, 2008 06:45 AM
Final score:
37 shot, 2 stabbed, 7 dead. All on a single weekend in the Windy City [a police state city that bans guns].
Posted by: 30yearProf at April 21, 2008 10:03 AM
Anybody got any figures on how many of those shootings were fully gang-related/drug related (with gang or drug involvement on both sides) and how many were gang or drug involved (the perpetrator attacking an innocent party for gang-related or drug related reasons? Take those incidents out of the picture and how many shootings would you have had this weekend? I'm betting fewer than five, and would not be surprised if it was down around two.
Posted by: doug in colorado at April 21, 2008 02:16 PM
Doug:
Here is my response to a similar comment in the Chicago Trib:
Chicago requires annual registration of long guns (rifles and shotguns) and completely bans handguns. These restrictions of course only affect those that abide the law. In addition, "scary looking" (but no more dangerous) rifles like AKs and ARs are banned in the city, and in the entire county. Finally, one has to possess a FOID card to possess any firearm or ammo. To get a FOID card one must undergo criminal and mental backgroud checks. And all this, on top of the other myriad laws broken anytime there is a gang shooting in the city (at least any shooting outside of justifiable home defense).
The news said that of the shootings just this weekend:
- "Nearly all" were gang-related
- 77% of victims had criminal backgrounds
- 97% of the perpetrators had criminal backgrounds
Ninety-seven percent. That's effectively "all of them." Think of that - effectively ALL of these shooters have prior arrest records. Anyone wonder why they are let back out on the street? Anyone want to guess what we could change to reduce this violence? Hint - it's ain't gun control, it's criminal control.
All the weapons save perhaps the knives used in the stabbings were already illegal, many times over. I don't understand the logic that making guns even MORE illegal would do anything except infringe our right to bear arms and allow anti-defense bigots a few days of glee.
So far, I like the new Police Chief Jody Weis - he seems to be a no-nonsense guy, a stright talker. But now he's beginning to carry Daley's banner of failure, saying we need more gun laws to stop the violence, and stroking the "assault weapon" straw man. I honestly don't think he really believes that - I believe very few cops actually believe that - and I think they support more gun laws only for reasons of political expediency. As long as they continue the "more gun laws mantra", the ignorant and helpless people of Chicago will be fooled into thinking they are working for a solution.
It's too bad to see the new chief go down this same tired and failed road, only because it's consistent with the political positions of his arguably corrupt boss and his allies. Daley and Weis "enjoy" the strictest gun control laws in the nation, yet this madness of violence continues. Gun control doesn't work. Go figure.
Posted by: Carl in Chicago at April 21, 2008 03:29 PM
