Sacramento residents shaking in their boots
Story here. The Sheriff has approved 37 carry permits this year, and a Brady Campaign spokesman worries that this "would not make us safer and could actually increase gun violence in Sacramento County..."
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CCW permitees vs. nonpermittees crime rates
Howard Nemerov runs the figures for Texas. Depending upon your standard (all convictions, violent offense convictions, homicide convictions, etc.) the only question is how much better the permit holders come off. For most measures, their rates are 1/9 to 1/10 those of nonpermittees.
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Florida CCW permits following general firearm trends
In Florida, applications for CCW permits are up 67%, to 150,000 and the issuing agency is asking for 61 temporary employees to tackle them.
Hat tip to reader gunshytourist...
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VPC claims re: permit holder's crime
John Pierce has an excellent response.
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AZ allows limited CCW in alcohol serving establishments
Story here. Governor Brewer signed legislation modifying the previous absolute ban on carrying in any establishment that served liquor (in any amount). Under the new law, a person could carry in such a place if (1) they personally consume no liquor; (2) they have a CCW permit; and (3) the establishment doesn't post signs forbidding carrying.
In the meantime, the governor of Tenn. just vetoed a similar bill. Strangely, the [UK] Guardian reports that he signed the bill. Say Uncle reports that the governor did sign a bill letting off duty LEOs carry in such establishments, "Also, note the press coverage. When it’s for police they refer to establishments that serve alcohol. When it’s for handgun carry permit holders, they’re all bars."
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Georgia permit apps nearly doubling
Story here.
Hat tip to reader Ed Stone....
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National CCW reciprocity bill
Alphecca notes it's been introduced. I'd share his doubts it's going anywhere soon.
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Strange situation in Texas
Story here.
Woman comes into office with a hunting bow, shoots a guy with an arrow, draws a (fake) gun, and points it at two other employees.
Who happen to be CCW holders, and packing. She takes several hits and retreats. An officer comes in to evacuate the guy with the arrow in him, and she starts drawing the bow for a shot at the officer, who fires on her.
While in other Texas news, two guys with revolvers kick in an apartment door. Only to find two guys with shotguns inside.
Hat tip to reader six-gun Sally....
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Debate on shall issue's effect on crime continues
A summary of a recent article, over at the Volokh Conspiracy. It's an answer to an earlier article arguing that shall-issue increases crime rates. I'm not statistician, but the gist of it is that the earlier article got its results only by considering crime rates in the first five years after enactment; if it had extended to six or more years, it would show crime rate reductions.
(For me, this is further proof of the inadequacies of statistical work in the gun law arena. I could understand a conclusion that shall-issue is followed by crime rate increases, or reductions, or no change. I cannot understand a conclusion that it is followed by crime rate increases followed by crime rate reductions. To be precise, I can understand that pattern, provided it is divorced from any concept of causation -- that is, the pattern is pure coincidence, perhaps the product of when the laws were enacted in relation to the predictable crime rate cycles).
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FLA CCW holder stops robbery
Story here.
Hat tip to reader Carl in Chicago...
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Experiment with carrying
Bob Owens tries six months of carrying concealed.
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Orange Co. CA sheriff decides there's too many CCW permits
Story here. The perils of "may issue." The new sheriff decides there simply must be too many permits, because a neighboring county has issued only a third as many. On the other hand, there is evidence the outgoing (indicted) sheriff issued them to campaign workers and buddies.
Hat tip to Dan Gifford...
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Interesting approach by OR sheriff
A newspaper (Mail-Tribune of Medford OR) sued Sheriff Mike Winters to obtain the names of CCW permit holders. He opposed on the ground that State law exempts from disclosure info that is related to personal security. The Circuit Court ruled that CCW permits aren't automatically related to security; that must be proven.
Sheriff Rob Gordon came up with a novel idea to deal with the ruling (and the probability that someone would make a similar request of him), and polling CCW holders by mail to ask their reasons for obtaining a permit, and whether they want their data kept private. He also set up a webpage where people can enter their reason and whether they want their records held private.
[Story updated and corrected in light of reader Gordon R. Durand's comment].
Update: as I recall, when another paper tried this sort of story, local firearm rights groups researched and put online all publicly-available data on its editorial staff. Home addresses and phone numbers (obtained from voting registration forms), house size and valuations (from the county assessor's office), etc., etc, etc.. I seem to recall that the paper gained a newfound respect for privacy.
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Soccer mom gets CCW permit back
She had a permit, but open carried at soccer games. The other soccer moms got bent out of shape, and the sheriff revoked her CCW permit (he didn't like her openly carrying, so he put her in a position where openly is the only way she can carry. Makes a lot of sense.) Fortunately, a court has overruled the sheriff.
Hat tip to reader Dave Ladin.... who sends a followup story and a note the spamcatcher blocked:
"Soccer parents wince at prospect of guns at games"
"Gregg-Bolognese said some...fathers have threatened to take a gun away from
anyone who arrives at a game with one, an idea she tries to squelch."
QED proof that she needs to carry in that thug league.
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My own thought: perhaps projection, in the psychological sense? A person knows they have a mental issue, doesn't want to admit it, and claims that others have the problem. "It's not me, it's you!" A nasty drunk get loaded and nasty and tells someone else they're a mean drunk.
What the unnamed person proposes: "if that lady legally carries something I don't want her carrying, I'll just assault her and take it."
And why doesn't he want her to have it? "She might be unpredictably violent."
UPDATE: Sebastian has a good point. And even here in the southwest, open carry in town is rare. In the desert, sure. Only a fool greenie wanders around unarmed and without a canteen, where the law is nonexistent in a practical sense (and even when it does apply, rattlesnakes and bears and such are notoriously ignorant of it). But in town... you can leave the gun in the car, and crime isn't terribly high.
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CCW permit revoked for legal open carry
Soccer mom in Pennsylvania has a CCW permit, but open carries to soccer games -- as is legal, permit or no. The other moms say this makes them "uncomfortable," and the sheriff revokes her CCW permit.
Hat tip to Eric Schultz and Mark Noble (who's a candidate for US Congress in Ohio-15).
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CCW licenses up in Florida
Now one in 35 residents has one. An official notes applications surge in the aftermath of hurricanes. And its crime rate and violent crime rate is falling. What? How can that be?
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Students for Concealed Carry on Campus
Story here, regarding their first national meeting in D.C.. Rather slanted -- a five second clip from the meeting, and more from their opponents -- but then it's hard to expect much else.
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CCW bans in churches
Many CCW permit systems forbid licensees to carry in certain locations -- bars, courthouses, etc.. A fair number of these have a prohibition on carry in churches. Jack Burton has some interesting thoughts on this, and principles of separation of church and state.
Basically: (1) what makes a church special in a way that, say a VFW hall is not? (2) The response has to be that a church is a holy nonprofit group's home, and the legislature judges that packing a gun in there would be an offense to the Almighty. Apart from being rather presumptuous (the Almighty may like guns, and who is a legislature to define his tastes) doesn't that sound a bit like an entanglement of church and state?
Thanks to reader Rick Schwartz for the tip...
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Another CCW holder stops a mass slaying
Via Instpundit and SayUncle comes this report of a Nevada CCW holder who killed the murderer.
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Utah weighs restricting CCWs for nonresidents
The Deseret News has the story. The problem is that a majority of their applicants are from out of State, and this year they'll issue 40,000 of them.
Limiting it to residents might bump up against the privileges and immunities clause of the Constitution (i.e, the original one, not the 14th Amendment). That's a complex subject; a challenge to the NY requirement that a person either live or have an office in-State in order to get a firearms permit there was upheld a while back on the tenuous ground that the State wasn't discriminating unfairly, it just found it easier to keep track of people who lived or officed there.
Hat tip to Joe Olson....
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GA broadens rt to carry
Story here. The legislation allows CCW holders to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, on mass transit, etc..
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Where to comment on allowing CCW holders to carry in national parks
Here's the comment website. I'd cut and paste the Docket ID, FWS-R9-NSR-2008-0062, into the message just to make sure it gets to the right place. You can read the proposed rule as a pdf off the comment page, too.
The admin rules are essentially: if the agency wants to change a rule, they must publish a proposed rule with explanation. The public must be given a reasonable time (30-60 days is customary) to comment on it. Then the agency publishes the final rule, together with a response to significant comments. So it's not just a letter to the editor: although numbers don't hurt, logical reasons affect the process better than simple statements of support. I'd suggest emphasizing how law-abiding CCW licenesees are (preferrably with links to sites with hard numbers), and responding to claims it'd lead to risk of poaching.
UPDATE: reader Carl in Chicago provides his comment, pasted into extended remarks, below.
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A commentary on the restraint of CCW holders
From the Palm Beach Post, a story that begins "It could've been a typical spat between grocery store customer and manager, with the customer announcing he planned to take his business elsewhere. But then the customer drew his gun. The store manager drew his and so did the assistant manager."
The aggressor fired repeatedly, but the manager and clerk held their fire, cornered him outside, and talked him into putting down his gun. Police arrested him for attempted murder, etc..
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Newspaper gets list of CCW holders
An Oregon court has ruled that the Mail-Tribune has a right to copies of the CCW permit holders in Jackson County.
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VA CCW permit applications up
As in by 60% over last year.
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Students for Concealed Carry on Campus
Instapunk has a great post on the group, together with one of their posters.
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Detroit Free Press: More Guns, Less Crime
From the Detroit Free Press:
"Six years after new rules made it much easier to get a license to carry concealed weapons, the number of Michiganders legally packing heat has increased more than six-fold.
But dire predictions about increased violence and bloodshed have largely gone unfulfilled, according to law enforcement officials and, to the extent they can be measured, crime statistics.
The incidence of violent crime in Michigan in the six years since the law went into effect has been, on average, below the rate of the previous six years. The overall incidence of death from firearms, including suicide and accidents, also has declined.
More than 155,000 Michiganders -- about one in every 65 -- are now authorized to carry loaded guns as they go about their everyday affairs, according to Michigan State Police records.
About 25,000 people had CCW permits in Michigan before the law changed in 2001.
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Kenneth Levin, a West Bloomfield physician, was one of those critics. In a letter to the Free Press in July 2001, he referred to the "inevitable first victim of road or workplace rage as a result of this law."
Last month, Levin said he suspected "it probably hasn't turned out as bad as I thought. I don't think I was wrong, but my worst fears weren't realized.""
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Pennsylvania and Arkansas CCW reciprocity
Word is that they have reached a reciprocity agreement.
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PA carry permit revoked for ... 100% legal conduct
Snowflakes in Hell is reporting the case of a PA man who carried openly into a polling place (which, he pointed out when challenged, is completely legal), and is told his carry permit is being revoked. The grounds are a clause that denies permits to a person “whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.” The sheriff contends that his open carry "violates the spirit of the law," even though it is completely legal.
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VA panel recommends keeping list of CCW holders private
Story here.
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Milwaukee trial judge rules CCW unconstitutional as applied
Story here: now, it is a trial court, not an appellate one, and it is "as applied," in the context of a pizza deliveryman in a high-crime area.
Reading the opinion (linked to that page): He defended himself against an armed robbery, and was then charged with CCW for it. It wasn't the first time. The court applies the new state constitutional amendment on arms, the Wisconsin caselaw construing it, which essentially requires for concealed carry that the individual's need to carry outweigh the state's interest in enforcing CCW bans, and that the situation be such that open carry wasn't a feasible way to exercise the right to arms. The trial court concluded both were true and dismissed the prosecution.
Hat tip to Budd Schroeder....
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Teacher sues over CCW in Oregon
Story here. Oregon law allows CCW holder to carry on school grounds, and she has good reason to need self defense capabilities. But the school district contends that, even tho such carrying is legal, their policies can forbid it: a person couldn't be prosecuted, but could be fired, essentially.
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Interactive database on CCW reciprocity
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More on LA Sheriff and CCW permits
I received from a reader a list of the 500 or so CCW permits that the sheriff of LA County has allowed. Just by way of experiment, I took the first name given for a holder in each municipality, and did a quick Google for them. Strangely, the occupations seem more associated with money and celebrity than with likely need for defense against crime:
Actor: 6
Producer: 3
Judge: 2
Private investigator: 2
Prosecutor: 1
Pvt atty: 1
Venture capitalist: 1
Musician: 1
Major business: 1
Nothing found: 4
Someone who researched the entire list says there are 135 issued to judges and 57 to attorneys (i.e., about 40% of the tota).
22 go to addresses in Beverly Hills, and 10 to Malibu which have virtually no murders, and other violence rates around half the national average. In Compton, which has a murder rate five times the national average, there are zero CCW permits. Same for Lynwood, which has nearly three times the national average murder rate. Basically, if you want a CCW permit in LA County, it's best to live in a wealthy area with a zero homicide rate.
UPDATE: the experience of one CCW applicant is in extended remarks below.
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Ruling on social security no's and CCW permits
A Virginia judge has ruled the issuing agency cannot require disclosure of SSNs as a condition of application.
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Article on Oklahoma CCW
What looks like a pretty fair treatment, at the Tulsa World.
Hat tip to Budd Schroeder...
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Arizona and Utah CCW training
Here's a website for a group that offers CCW classes both for AZ and for UT. (The significance of the latter is that Utah's permits are easier to get and more widely honored, and you don't have to reside in Utah... except that if you're an Arizonan, the state won't let you carry in-state based on one).
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Senior citizens taking out CCW permits
Story here.
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West Virginia CCW reciprocity
The WV Atty General has the announcement.
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CCW permittee helps stop bank robbery
Story here. He definitely kept a cool head. Saw the robbery, drew, took cover where he controlled the robber's escape route, trapped him, summoned police, and when they arrived let them take the lead. The robber is also charged with murdering two bank clerks.
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Legislator has a change of heart
Story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
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Chart of "shall issue," "may issue" and "don't issue" states
Here it is.
[UPDATE: a reader notes that it classifies South Carolina as an unrestricted open carry state, which it isn't. S.C. Code Sec. 16-23-20 provides that it is illegal to carry a handgun about the person, and then lists a bunch of exceptions (such as hunters and fishermen while hunting and fishing), but it's apparently not the case that (as in my Arizona) you can just carry anything openly.
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West Virginians may get wider reciprocity with CCW
Story here.
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Knew I liked Utah folks
The immediate results of the shopping mall shooting there have been a doubling in CCW permit applications.
" "The Trolley Square shootings was a horrific, historic, violent act," McConkie says. "People reacted in different ways. Many people wanted a concealed carry permit and people who had let their permits go dormant reapplied."
Firearms instructor Clark Aposhian says his classes, usually with fewer than 10 students, have swelled to 20 or 30. "Since the 13th of February, I'm teaching easily 150 a week."
Aposhian says he has been asked to train 45 employees from one company and even a large Salt Lake church group. He declined to identify them."
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Response to Roanoke (VA) Times printing name of CCW permittees
An email from VCDL:
"The RT's reckless actions have endangered lives, as there are people on that CHP list who are under threat from violent ex-spouses or from criminals they have helped put in jail.
I have been returning calls from concerned gun owners and the stories are heartbreaking and intense. One woman's mother wakens at the slightest sound in the middle of the night and she calls the police and her daughter. She is living in constant fear that the person who has threatened to kill her has now found her address complements of the Roanoke Times.
Some people are looking at moving immediately.
Fortunately, your combined efforts shutdown the database within one day, hopefully before too many bad guys had a chance to use it.
I called the Fredericksburg Freelance-Press and the King George Journal-Press on Friday. Both papers are still printing the names and other information on local CHP holders.
I explained the seriousness of what they are doing. I said that there is nothing to be gained by printing permit holder information, but a lot to be lost."
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Don't bring a pellet gun to a gunfight
CCW licensee shoots a man who tried to rob him with a pellet gun that looked like a .45
Hat tip to Dan Gifford.
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Ohio CCW revision takes effect tommorrow
Story here.
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CCW permitee holders stop street shooter
In Memphis, two CCW permitees stop and arrest a gunman who was firing at cars.
Don't hold your breath on the national media picking this story up.
Hat tip to Dan Gifford.
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Proposal to raise CCW permit fees in Nevada
A bill has been introduced in Nevada that will double the fee for a CCW permit. More here.
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Thune-Nelson national reciprocity bill
US Senators John Thune and Ben Nelson have introduced a national CCW reciprocity bill, similar to that introduced last Session by Sen. Allen. Here's a pdf of the bill and their "dear colleague" letter to other Senators.
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Don Kates on CCW permits
Don Kates has sent part of a rough draft of an article he's working on, regarding discretionary permit issue. It's under extended remarks, below.
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Florida crime rates dropping
Interesting data released today. Florida is, of course, the inventor of liberalized handgun concealed carry permits, of "castle doctrine" laws that allow lethal force in self defense without having to retreat, and a few other such measures.
Naturally, the Brady Campaign used Florida as their poster child for a gun-crazy state. Brady began an advertising campaign to warn tourists against entering this dangerous state. "The �Shoot First� law is a new law in Florida that police, prosecuting attorneys and gun violence prevention advocates worry may lead to the reckless use of guns on the streets of Florida cities." Sarah Brady intoned, ""The net effect of the new 'Shoot First' law in Florida is, unfortunately, precisely what we feared. People are dying who did not deserve to die." Just for good measure, Brady added "Gun violence in Florida could increase in 2005 because Congress failed to renew the federal assault weapon ban, which expired last fall, and Florida has no state law restricting assault weapons or rapid-fire ammunition magazines. Florida also does not require background checks at gun shows, does not require child-safety locks to be sold with guns, does not have any handgun safety standards to limit Saturday night specials and even forces police to let people carry hidden handguns in public."
Well, the Palm Beach Post reports that Florida's crime rates have fallen to the lowest level since 1971. "A telephone message left for comment after hours with the The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington, D.C. was not immediately returned."
You can get the report, in pdf format, here. It shows that, even though the state's population is growing, total homicides fell by 6.9%, and firearm homicides by 6.1%. Given the population increase, the decrease in rates would have been greater.
[UPDATE: Welcome, instavalanche! Take a look at the main page. Blogging has been a bit light since I've been working on creating the first Second Amendment documentary film. Starring, among other academics, Instapundit himself, not to mention Gene Volokh and Dave Kopel of the Volokh Conspiracy. All by coincidence -- when I started filming in early 2003, blog were unknown.
[UPDATE in light of comment: I know that NRA and Gun Owners of America rate candidates. I suspect that, come election time, you can find the ratings online somewhere, but don't have a url cite for it].
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Bill introduced for nationwide CCW
I don't have a link yet, but am informed by email that a federal bill has been introduced by Sen. George Allen, with 13 cosponsors, (update: reader Jim Archer reports that here's a link) to the following effect:
A BILL
To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard
in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry concealed
firearms in the State.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. NATIONAL STANDARD FOR THE CARRYING OF CERTAIN CONCEALED FIREARMS BY NONRESIDENTS.
(a) In General- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926C the following:
`Sec. 926D. National standard for the carrying of certain concealed firearms by nonresidents
`(a) Definition- In this section, the term `another State' means a State other than the State from which a person holds a license or permit described in subsection (b)(2).
`(b) Authorization- Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof, and subject to subsection (c), a person may carry a concealed firearm (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce in another State if the person--
`(1) is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm; and
`(2) is carrying a valid license or permit that--
`(A) is issued by a State; and
`(B) permits the person to carry a concealed firearm (other than a machinegun or destructive device).
`(c) Licensing-
`(1) IN GENERAL- If another State issues licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms, a person may carry a concealed firearm in that State under this section under the same restrictions that apply to the carrying of a concealed firearm by a person to whom that State has issued such a license or permit.
`(2) NO LICENSES BY STATE- Except to the extent expressly permitted by State law, if another State does not issue licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms, a person may not carry a concealed firearm in that State under this section--
`(A) in a police station;
`(B) in a public detention facility;
`(C) in a courthouse;
`(D) in a public polling place;
`(E) at a meeting of a State, county, or municipal governing body;
`(F) in a school;
`(G) at a professional or school athletic event not related to firearms;
`(H) in a portion of an establishment licensed by that State to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises; or
`(I) inside the sterile or passenger area of an airport.'.
UPDATE: see extended comments below]
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Ohio case on open carry
Ohioans for Concealed Carry reports an abuse matter.
The gun owner held a CCW permit, but was carrying openly and peacefully when apparently someone reported him. Oregon, Ohio police made a felony stop--guns out, keep your hands out of the car, etc. They charged him with failure to notify police he had a CCW permit (although he states he did so, and it's not clear to me that those requirements apply when carry is open) and with violating a city ordinance that forbids ALL carry of ALL firearms.
Then for good measure, the authorities revoked his CCW permit and confiscated his firearms. Legal basis for that is not known.
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Study on liberalizing CCW & crime rates
Here's a media report of a study indicating that liberalizing CCW does not increase crime rates (from the report it's unclear whether the result is that it has no effect, or whether, as John Lott's work indicates, it reduces crime rates).
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Kansas to pass liberalized CCW
The Kansas legislature appears almost certain to pass a liberalized concealed carry permit bill, but the governor has pledged to veto it. Sponsors think they have enough votes for an override, but that it'll be close.
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Arizona House votes to drop refresher courses for CCW
The Arizona House of Reps has voted to drop refresher course requirements for CCW permits.
The requirement was for a two-hour course to update holders on changes to the gun laws. As the sponsors pointed out, the state gun laws don't change all that much, and it would be simpler for the state merely to mail the license holders any changes.