I expect other firearms have retroactively become NFA firearms. I'm wondering how the heck that happens if one possesses one of these in a state where CLEO signature is basically impossible...

-Gene

Seems to me the whole concept of sporting firearms fails after Heller.

2012 can't come fast enough

What can we do to stop this? I emailed NRA-ILA and they haven't gotten back to me in their usual speedy fashion. I'm not hearing anything from Gura or any of the other usual suspects about challenging it with a lawsuit.

And so I'm getting kind of depressed about this.

The fundamental right secured by the 2nd amendment is about self defense, not sporting purpose. This is what Heller and McDonald teach. So it seems to me the sporting purpose is irrelevant and the issue
should be if the firearm has a defensive purpose.

Gene: Streetsweeper owners simply sent in a Form 4 without a tax payment and with the LEO signature left blank, because they didn't buy the firearm while it was an NFA item.

The ATF made a bunch of threats, and then backed off and put them on the registry.

John: agree. Rep. Ron Paul did push some legislation to remove the words "sporting purposes" from all of the CFRs involved, but it went nowhere.

When is the Benelli M4 going to be put on that list next????

I spent over $600 for a collapsible stock I certainly DON'T WANT the shotgun to suddenly become $3000

Even if "sporting purpose" was a valid constitutional test, wouldn't the Saiga pass that test because of it's extensive use in 3-gun competition? Or are the shooting sports not "sporting"?

Delegata potestas non potest delegari !

Let's see: To whom was all legislative authority delegated? I wonder. Make laws. Make rules. Make regulations. I wonder.

Gee, Could it be CONGRESS?????

And according to the above latin phrase, once delegated, a power cannot be delegated to another.

Think of it this way. You hire the neighborhood teenager to watch your kids while you an your honey are out. When you come home, you find the homeless guy from down on the corner sitting on your sofa watching TV. You ask, "What's going on?" He answers, "I was hired for a couple of bucks to watch these here kids." Your neighborhood baby-sitter delegated the authority you delegated first to another. Would you consider this proper? Didn't think so. It is no different with the powers Congress is allowed to exercise. No agency has any authority nor can Congress legitimately grant any agency the authority to make regulations.

Anything the ATF does is B.S.

But as always the government has the biggest guns and they WILL get you.

My hunch is this is all due to lawyers looking out for each other. It all started with Bush's VP Darth Vader shooting that lawyer with a shotgun in Texas. Everyone knows VP Vader had never had warm feelings for lawyers and this has had lawyers sweating bullets for years.

This is the MO of the Obama administration, since they can’t pass guns control laws in congress they use regulations through in this case the ATF to control and ban arms. This is the same thing that Obama did after Cap and Trade failed he is using the EPA to regulate his will without having to go through the congress. Wake up people 2012 can not get here fast enough.