The antigun "gun guys" blog blows its cover
Freedom States Alliance is an antigun organization heavily funded by the Joyce Foundation. And in press release today it states:
"First, the Freedom States Alliance, which oversees our daily news blog, GunGuys.com, does not endorse political candidates."
Yeah yeah yeah. Public attitudes about guns are changing. The NRA is over as a political force in America. Americans are sick and tired of gun violence and politicians being in thrall to the gun lobby.
Heard it all before. Don't believe a damned word of it. I have never seen a political party get as serious about asking for an ass kicking as the Republican Party has been for the last several years. If they had listened to Tom Coburn instead of Trent Lott, Ted Stevens, Don Young, Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham, and their ilk, they would still be the majority party in the Congress today, and would likely not have lost the White House.
To say that guns and gun control had anything to do with what just happened in November is a bold faced, firetrucking, lie. The fact is that the Dems didn't talk about gun control, didn't advocate for gun control, and desperately tried to change the subject any time it came up. The goal over the next few years is to remind Dems and GOP'ers alike that 1994 was not that long ago. And, like Senator Everett Dirksen said: "Winners never remember and losers never forget."
Posted by: Letalis Maximus, Esq. at December 23, 2008 08:14 PM
Wooo hooo! It was only a matter of time!
Posted by: Nimrod45 at December 23, 2008 08:22 PM
Yeah ... American's are now anti-gun. That's why Obama had to deny filling out a form claiming he wanted to outlaw handguns, continually say he was for the 2nd amendment, swear he wasn't going to take away any guns, and why the dems needed the AHSA to cover for them.
Several million americans hold CCW permits. Given the margins that national elections go by, that constituency alone is too great to seriously piss off.
This isn't he 1970's anymore when the only person supporting guns and armed defense is Archie Bunker. We may have lost some momentum, we may get an AWB, but we damned sure ain't dead.
And now we have Heller, which could be of help if any cases reach SCOTUS before Obama gets to tip the balance.
Posted by: Steve W. at December 23, 2008 10:40 PM
I don't even know where to start, but I'm feeling a bit nauseous. Between the lies and the straw-man BS I had trouble even skimming over it.
I think it's time we started comparing the reactions people would have to the same sorts of limits on the First, Fourth, and Fifth Amendment as they love to place on the Second. I still don't see how the First Amendment is incorporated but not the Second.
Posted by: Parrothead Jeff at December 24, 2008 02:53 AM
The NRA got a slap this election through no fault of their own. A lot of gun owners didn't see gun control as an issue this election. The Dems avoided the issue like the plague with good reason. It bit them in the ass too many times in the past. People voted the economy not "side" issues. Now the antis and their pet media are trying to re-interpret that into a loss for the NRA and a change in attitudes in favor of gun control. I've always seen gun rights as a nonpartisan issue. Their are people on both sides of the isle on both sides of the issue. If Obama and the Dems buy this they're in for another slap down by their own people was well as our own.
Posted by: kahr40 at December 24, 2008 05:13 AM
We get criticized for a single spy...
But the anti-gunners set up false organizations (AHSA), fake blogs (gunguys.com), infiltrate and spy (the likes of Michael Moore and his lifetime NRA membership, and what's his face who has the FFL just so he can get into dealer only events).
But we'll never hear the media say a peep about these actions. Frankly, I approve of the NRA spy, and think we need to set up a few organizations ourselves.
Perhaps: CampaignAgainstViolence.com (like Brady, but where we tout the records of judges who release criminals back on the street to repeat their crimes)
Posted by: N.U.G.U.N. at December 24, 2008 08:12 AM
I don't see Obama pushing hard for gun control legislation absent any big catalyzing event (it took the OKC Bombing for Clinton to manipulate that tragedy and get the AWB passed, and it quickly bit him in the ass and dogged the rest of his presidency).
I'm mainly just worried about all the executive order business that Obama/Biden/Rahm can use to throw various roadblocks up on imported arms & ammo, under the radar...probably following in Bush's steps by making such announcements late on a Friday, while the press isn't paying attention, etc.
The Mumbai incident if anything exposes the folly of gun-bans. At least one British newspaper recognized that and asserted that Britons today are just as vulnerable as their former colonial subjects in Mumbai were, and advocated allowing Britons to arm themselves. It probably will be flushed down the memory hole, but it definitely brought a smile to my face to read those lines from across the pond.
Posted by: JJR at December 24, 2008 02:10 PM
Your timeline is inaccurate. The AWB was passed in September 1994. The OKC bombing was not until April 1995. The Dems got destroyed at the polls in November 1994, and it was expected that one of the new GOP controlled Congress' first priorities would be to pay gun owners and the NRA back for their great victory. The Murrah Building bombing stopped the momentum for that repeal once it became known that McVeigh was a member of the "militia/gun nut" movement. So, we had to wait 10 years for the AWB to expire by its own terms. And you can be sure, the next AWB will not have a sunset provision.
Posted by: Letalis Maximus, Esq. at December 24, 2008 06:16 PM
Just FYI ... the "gun guys" blog has long claimed that they are a project of the "freedom states alliance."
That the gun guys are ultimately funded by Joyce is (and has been) no secret.
That rabbit hole is not very deep, but seems to have lots of money and ultimately, influence. Money enough, it seems, to fund Saul Cornell, and influence enough that Cornell's shoddy work gets cited by Justice Stevens and the other dissenters in Heller ...
With a hole that shallow, it should be easy to flush the rabbit into the open. Be vewy vewy quiet ... David Hardy is hunting wabbits.
Posted by: Carl in Chicago at December 25, 2008 01:59 PM
Psychotic morons thinking the election was just about gun rights, actually the gun issue had nothing to do with the economy or the Iraq war that many did not agree with. This really goes to show you how fanatical these anti-gunners really are about taking guns away from law abiding citizens, it’s what they think the whole elections are about.
Posted by: Tom at December 27, 2008 09:24 AM