Oakland CA gun buyback
Via Instapundit comes this report. Oakland offers $250 per gun. So two gun dealers clean out all their old junkers and turn in 60 guns for a cool $15,000. Followed by a bunch of seniors at an assisted living facility nearby, who probably weren't doing much in the way of robbery or crack dealing.
Same thing happened here some years ago. A certain dealer sent his folks to make the rounds of turn in points (they had a limit per person) and turn his pile of junkers into cash. I took an old and broken single shot shotgun down and turned an unsalable and unrepairable gun into a fistful of money. Gun collectors staked out the locations and if they saw someone with something valuable, offered them more than the turn-in price. Since the folks at the turn in locations didn't know one gun from another, they wound up buying dozens of BB guns at a hefty price.
In Minneapolis, one North Dakota dealer showed up with a F250 full of rusty crap and walked away with $20,000. A Minneapolis dealer sold 500 Ariska's he'd just bought for $10 each.
One guy sold a dozen demilled M2 carbine receivers (serial number half) that he'd bought as paperweights for $.50 each. We think the fireman at the table wasn't fooled but he took them anyway.
If they are lucky they get some confused widow to turn in a $40,000 Parazzi shotgun (that disappears before the foundry) such as they got in St. Louis. It must feel good to rip off an old lady.
Posted by: 30yearprof at February 25, 2008 10:24 AM
Did you mean Arisaka?
Posted by: straightarrow at February 25, 2008 11:01 AM
One little bug in the 'get the good ones first' plan for California: anything not Curio and Relic, and Curio and Relic handguns, MUST be sold using a FFL dealer.
And Oakland has NONE. The city put a tax on everything sold by stores that sold guns, and drove the last one out of business about ten years ago.
Posted by: JohnS at February 25, 2008 11:29 AM
You got a cite for that Perazzi story? I know of a place or two I would like to post that.
Posted by: Letalis Maximus, Esq. at February 25, 2008 01:10 PM
Something fishy about this. There are no FFL's in Oakland yet the agency can purchase and posess firearms.
How do you know they don'r have undercover LEO's walking around in the crowd trying to sting a citizen that attempts to do a parking lot transfer without benefit of a proper 4473 sheet and paying the fees?
Also whats the guarantee they aren't snapping your picture for the national facial recognition database? For a mere $250.00 it ain't worth it.
Posted by: The Mechanic at February 25, 2008 01:27 PM
Not only useless, but counter-productive. At least someone's getting something out of them! Fifty-cent demilled receivers bringing $250 (or even $100) each? Good grief.
Perhaps you've heard what the gun control crowd said in response to "post-ban" AR-15s? Effectively, manufacturers were accused of violating the "spirit of the law" by providing firearms that complied with the 1994 fed law. I am still waiting for the media to report how gun buybacks are really good and effective but only when people comply with them in spirit...such as when the Crips and Bloods file in to give up their firearms for gift cards.
If the criminals were to comply with the spirit of the law...well then there would be no need for ANY gun control regulations. One thing these gun control types just can't figure out is that some people don't comply with the law - gee...is that why they call them "lawless?"
Posted by: Carl in Chicago at February 25, 2008 01:30 PM
Yeah I remember reading somewhere that "spirit of the law" crap about post-ban "assault weapons". Stupidity like that makes my head want to explode. I also read descriptions of it as "circumventing" or "avoiding" the law.
I did send a couple of those outfits e-mails pointing out that when you eliminate the features that are outlawed, that's called COMPLYING WITH the law. The disingenuousness of the anti-gun liberals knows no boundaries.
Posted by: Bill at February 25, 2008 04:28 PM
Hah, we had a party in Oakland, especically the Calguns crew.
I know of several folks (non-FFLs) that made 3 and 4 digit cash payouts (and not vouchers).
The irony of this is that the buyback was organized by Don "The Don" Perata, CA's Senate President Pro Tem, author of CA's generic AW ban ("SB23", 2000).
The bigger monies paid out to some of these nice folks is undoubtedly going straight toward purchase of more "off-list" AR (and other) rifles that are cleverly outside the control of SB23.
That's MY kinda feedback loop :)
[N.B.: Senator Perata, who enjoys being described by the Godfatherish moniker "The Don" is under current FBI investigation for corruption matters. Those funny clicks on his phone line ain't because he bought a cheap Chinese telephone :) ]
San Jose CA
Posted by: Bill Wiese at February 25, 2008 05:54 PM