New York TV station focuses on "muzzle-loader loophole"
Channel 7 (ABC, NYC) is on a crusade... not against "assault weapons," handguns, .50 cals, but to close the musket loophole. They have calls in to the Governor's Office, asking what he's going to do about the risk of criminals and lunatics going on a rampage with an 1861 Springfield, or perhaps a flintlock plains rifle.
You can picture the headlines: "SWAT team rushes sniper, takes powder horn from his hand"
But....wait! Aren't muskets the only things actually protected by the 2nd amendment? ;)
Posted by: geekWithA.45 at October 19, 2007 10:40 AM
Hey now Geek, you can't go about pointing out the direct contradictions in what passes for the anti-gunners' "logic"! That's just not fighting fair. Cut that out, you hear? We'll invoke the "fairness doctrine" on your behind.
Posted by: Bill at October 19, 2007 10:53 AM
And I imagine a pound of powder and a handful of lead balls will be considered an "arsenal".
Posted by: BobG at October 19, 2007 10:54 AM
Hopefully this tool of a reporter at WABC won't discover the fact that you do not need a federal licence or a background check to purchase a brand-new, reproduction 19th-century artillery piece, either...
(irony)Forget a single-shot muzzleloading rifle. If you are looking to cause mayhem, a Napoleon 12-pdr loaded with canister shot is a much better choice. The concealability of the 800-lb tube and wheeled carriage is an issue, though...(/irony)
Sheesh, haven't they wasted enough of our time with their hysterical nonsense? I thought this issue was decided 40 years ago with the 1968 GCA and all its German-law based definitions of antique firearms.
Posted by: Poshboy at October 19, 2007 11:52 AM
I believe percussion cap pistols also fall under the antique exemption.
You can buy reproductions of all the pistols Clint Eastwood used in "The Outlaw Josey Wales". Heck you could probably get yourself a whole Josey Wales outfit, spurs and all.
Don't tell those crack reporters at WABC, or they're likely to have heart attacks.
Posted by: robin at October 19, 2007 12:51 PM
"Police Commissioner Ray Kelly is not happy about the antique gun loophole. He says it should be done away with immediately."
In other news, Parliament has passed a law banning the export of guns, powder and ammunition to the Colonies. General William Howe has his sights fixed on capturing New York. Ray Kelly applauded General Howe and said he would kiss his hand upon entering the city.
Posted by: Rudy DiGiacinto at October 19, 2007 01:02 PM
>>Cut that out, you hear? We'll invoke the "fairness doctrine" on your behind.
Does that mean I have to let Sarah Brady post on my blog? ;)
Posted by: geekWithA.45 at October 19, 2007 01:15 PM
>>> Does that mean I have to let Sarah Brady post on my blog? ;)
Yes! Her, and Carolyn McCarthy and Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein and Ted Kennedy, too! Oh, and Mayor Bloomberg and Eliot Schpitzenpepper also!
(ouch, it made my teeth hurt just to type those blankety-blank names)
Posted by: Bill at October 19, 2007 03:14 PM
A while back I used Senator Schumer's name in an e mail. Spell check highlighted his name and suggested "schemer" . It made my day.
Posted by: SCATTERSHOT at October 19, 2007 04:36 PM
I suppose the fact you're lucky to get off four shots a minute with one of those is beside the point...wow, imagine the carnage such firepower could generate!
More PSH from the liberal media who insist that every aspect of our lives be micromanaged by the nanny state.
My rights are not a loophole!
Posted by: Yuri Orlov at October 20, 2007 04:02 AM
"State police trooper Amanda Reif has felt the power of the black powder rifle when she was shot by one last summer while responding to a domestic call.
"This one hit my vest and it mushroomed, it was the first shot. The second shot just hit a little higher," she said."
OK, it's awful she got shot, and the guy who did it is a scumbag, but who gets shot twice with a muzzleloader ?? Are there twin barrel ones ?
Posted by: Affe at October 20, 2007 09:40 AM
"Affe" wrote, on October 20, 2007 09:40 AM: " . . . who gets shot twice with a muzzleloader ?? Are there twin barrel ones ?"
She got hit with a "New York reload."
No laughing matter.
In agreement with earlier comment: No guns rights are ever a "loophole."
We really need to go on the offensive and push for strict scrutiny tests of all gun control laws (federal, state, county, and city), starting with the abolition of the BATFE and the repeal of the NFA of 1934.
Posted by: Tarn Helm at October 20, 2007 11:26 PM
I got a good laugh from the web page at the posted link. At the bottom of the story is an ad for Virginia urging the reader to "Live Passionately", with a picture of a Revolutionary War soldier holding...you guessed it...a musket. What a bunch of maroons.
Posted by: scout34 at October 21, 2007 06:19 AM
Thanks ABC! I live in New York and NEVER KNEW that there was a musket loophole. Now I know. I'm going shopping this weekend!
Posted by: NYC Prisoner at October 22, 2007 09:40 PM
Could a mortar or RPG be considered a muzzle loader? I suppose there are already laws banning those thing though?
Posted by: Matt at October 22, 2007 09:41 PM