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« Podcast on the Parker case | Main | Pro-gun attorneys »

American Univ holds campus shooter drill

Posted by David Hardy · 31 May 2007 07:17 PM

Story here.

The good news: AU is not a campus where only security guards are allowed to have arms.

The bad news: that's because security guards can't have them, either.

The good news: after security called 911 and DC police got there, they did deal with the "shooter."

The bad news: it took 20 minutes.

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Dear lord, that's pathetic.

"They did a good job of that. They neutralized the situation probably within about 20 minutes," said Cmdr. Andy Solberg of the Metropolitan Police Department.

"Our officers arrived in time to properly cordon off the area and start the body count. They are still searching for shell casings in the hope that maybe we can figure out what kind of gun the suspect used - which of course is the most important thing. We need to know whether it was one of those really dangerous and scary automatic handguns. If so, we'll immediately notify the Brady Campaign. Oh, uh - yeah, during that 20 minutes it took our officers to get the guy, he only killed 48 people. Boy, it's sure a good thing that not only the students, but even the on-campus police don't have guns. Who knows what might have happened if they were armed!"

Posted by: Bill at May 31, 2007 07:57 PM

Following the logic of some people after VA Tech, It's a good thing the Campus police are not armed because they might make things worse and shoot innocent people or when the real police show up, they won't know who the bad guys are and shoot the campus police.

If a gun is more likely to be taken from you and used against you, why didn’t anybody take the gun away from the VA Tech Killer?

Posted by: Rudy DiGiacinto at May 31, 2007 08:22 PM

So do you think they'll rerun the exercise using the (forgotten who to credit)'s scenario where at least one of the victim's is a CHL holder and armed?

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Me neither!

Posted by: Danno at June 1, 2007 12:31 AM

I'm speechless. Forget a gun, 20 minutes is enough time for someone to do serious damage with a broadsword. The fact AU seems to think this performance is laudable is even weirder.

Posted by: Sertorius at June 1, 2007 12:55 AM

Well, at least now potential killers will know how long it will take for cops to get there and stop them in the very best of situations.

Posted by: Jonas Salk at June 1, 2007 01:47 AM

Even allowing for the possibility that 20 minutes is a good response time, does anyone think it would be done that quickly if the suspect were really armed?

By the way, the article said that he was "captured and killed." I wonder why he was killed, when he had been captured? [/sarcasm]

Posted by: Brerarnold at June 1, 2007 06:29 AM

If a gun is more likely to be taken from you and used against you, why didn’t anybody take the gun away from the VA Tech Killer?

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Damn that's a great comment. I can't believe I've never read that or thought of it myself before! Note: zero sarcasm contained in this post, hard to convey in this medium but trust me. I literally sat here and stared at that for half a minute before I could move again. Bravo Rudy!

Posted by: JT at June 1, 2007 08:46 AM

Never forget: 30 of the 32 murders at VA Tech happened _after_ the police were on campus.

Posted by: anon at June 1, 2007 09:31 AM

Well, like Fred says in his SGN column, it's not so much how you did last time, it's how you do next time.

Persistence pays off. I just wonder if they have the diligence to follow through with another exercise after analyzing this one.

Posted by: Matt Maynard at June 2, 2007 06:59 AM

The broadsword comment is quite apropos. While most spree killers choose guns, the exceptions are in gun banning countries like China & Japan. The 2001 Osaka massacre saw 8 killed and 17 wounded. China's Ruzhou Number 2 High School massacre saw 8 dead and 4 injured with a kitchen knife.


Hooray! The University can send text messages. With no effective planning or resources, what will the message say? "Kiss your anatomy goodbye."

Posted by: Jerry in Detroit at June 2, 2007 09:40 AM

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