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Study of cop-killers

Posted by David Hardy · 17 February 2007 10:08 AM

Here's a summary of a study of killers of law enforcement officers. Of relevance here: only one of the 40 studied bought a gun legally. "Researcher Davis, in a presentation and discussion for the International Assn. of Chiefs of Police, noted that none of the attackers interviewed was "hindered by any law--federal, state or local--that has ever been established to prevent gun ownership. They just laughed at gun laws.""

The cop-killers boasted of being better shots and more practiced that the LEOs they fired on. 40% had been in gunfights before the one with the officer.

Interesting cues for LEOs:

None used a holster, they generally tucked the gun into their waistband. As a result, they have to feel it from time to time to make sure it's in place, and when running, have to keep a hand on it. Both should be clues that the suspect is armed.

40% carried a backup gun, at least on occasions.

Female officers are more thorough at searches of suspects, but are more likely to overlook the fact that females with the suspect may also be armed.

The gang-bangers' style is to avoid using sights, get the first shot in, and just fire in the general direction. The first hit is all-important, because if the other person goes down, they can always walk over and finish him off. (For LEOs this would underscore the FBI program I've heard about, something like just because you're hit doesn't mean you're dead. Most people hit just collapse, when they actually could continue the fight. In this setting, keeping up the fight means surviving, since the gang-banger doesn't plan on taking prisoners).

· Crime and statistics

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They are using that same FBI model at the Montana Law Enforcement Academy as well. Officers are trained with simunitions in running gun battles through realistic scenarios, and the officer always, ALWAYS "wins" no matter how many times they get hit. They're expected to shrug off head shots, even, and focus on the fight and THEN on medical concerns. Additionally, lots of anecdotal evidence regarding people who've fought through and lived despite multiple gun shots are relayed throughout the three months.

Posted by: Kilo India Tango at February 17, 2007 10:38 AM

The idea and teaching of surviving a gunshot was written up and is lectured on by Dave Grossman (killology.com). LEO and military organizations have adopted the lesson. See his book: ON COMBAT.

Posted by: RKM at February 17, 2007 12:02 PM

Thanks for the link. Sent it to several of our Utah legilators considering some anti-gun bills.

Posted by: HKL at February 18, 2007 05:51 PM

Let's see what the anti-gun-owner IACP does with this information . . . I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: k-romulus at February 20, 2007 07:50 AM

Cops kill innocents all the time, why shouldn't people kill them back?
I know a friend who was murdered by some A-Holl cop who got away with it. Another who would not arrest a drunken judge that crashed his car into mailboxs.
We need to watch cops, esp today, with the stupid patriot act, they think they can do anything, even kill kids.

Posted by: Ron at November 30, 2007 05:51 PM

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