ATFE: Making the World Safe from Ninjas
The headline says it all: "ATFE Rids University of Ninja Threat".
A Univ. of GA student was attending a pirates vs. ninjas event (I assume a fundraiser), wearing black clothes and with a bandanna over his face. Some ATFE agents, on campus for another event, decided he was suspicion, told him to freeze, and when he ran, tackled him, handcuffed him, and held him for university police ... who of course released him.
Click on the pictures to zoom in. Note how the one agent has the handcuffed student on the ground, with one of the agent's knees on his neck, and what looks like his full body weight on the kid's neck, twisting his head over. I guess they figured that when ninjas are concerned, there is no such thing as excessive force.
Big legal problems for the agents. At least when I was in the govt a decade ago, only FBI and Marshals had general arrest powers (to arrest for any federal offense, anyway). All other agencies had statutory arrest power only over the laws they were created to enforce. Federal fish and wildlife law, in the case of the agency I represented.
I researched the area, and advised that if they arrested for anything else, even tho they had a badge, it was legally a citizen's arrest, and under state law. With all the legal exposure that citizen's arrest carries with it. As in -- there is no probable cause defense to suit. The guy had better be guilty, because if he wasn't, you're pretty much liable as a matter of law, no matter how good a reason you had to think he committed an offense.
From the comments...ATFE doing what they do best: Nothing! BTW, Here's a link to a Jack Booted Thug ready to make war on the Christians at Waco: http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/agent1.jpg
Posted by: The Mechanic at April 12, 2006 06:55 PM
Anyone started making sure every Congresscritter taking part in the ATF Oversight hearings has received a copy of this article?
Posted by: KCSteve at April 13, 2006 12:07 PM
"When Ninja Attack" at http://loservillex.com/ninja.html
Posted by: Anonymous Coward at April 13, 2006 01:45 PM
And I think that if you want to disagree with the policy of the government, disagree with it. If there is a single federal official -- there's nobody, including me, who has never felt that they were mistreated by somebody working for the government. So if somebody believes someone who is working for the government has mistreated them, take it to the appropriate authority, make it public if you want to, but be specific. But do not condemn people who work for the government. That's the kind of mentality that produced Oklahoma City.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 13, 2006 09:21 PM
At some point, an agency has such a long and consistent history that it becomes appropriate to condemn everyone who is part of it for the acts of some of its members. I believe the ATF has reached that point. Anyone remember the midnight raids in the '60s and '70s on active gun traders whom the ATF decided were unlicensed "dealers" because they had engaged in a certain (unpublished and undiscoverable) number of gun transactions during a certain (unpublished and undiscoverable) time period. Confiscation of their guns and felony charges were the rule. And earned the agency the label of "jack booted thugs" from that well known arch-conservative Senator Hubert Humphrey ;-)
Remember how they set up Randy Weaver because he wouldn't become an informer for them? That set off a chain of events which led to the ATF killing his wife and kid at Ruby Ridge. Remember Waco? Agency "suspicion" of gun law violations ended up killing 80+ people so the ATF could show the world how big a dick they had. What about the massive invasions of personal privacy organized by the ATF at the Richmond gun shows last fall, in direct violation of their enabling legislation? This photo of the "ninja" is just the latest in a litany of abuse by this agency that goes back decades.
I have written both of my Senators, urging them to see what they can do to encourage the most extreme discipline of the agents involved in this latest outrage - both the one kneeling on the neck of the victim and the ones standing around letting it happen. Such discipline should include financial penalties if possible, dismissal from federal service with loss of severance and pension benefits if possible, and personnel file flags to prevent any future government service. (In addition, I would hope that each of the agents involved in this fiasco can be personally sued into bankruptcy, although I suspect that is a vain hope.)
I have also urged my Senators to disband this agency in its entirety, in order to purge its crusading zeal from the government. The tax laws that the ATF enforces should be enforced the way other tax laws are enforced - by civilized agents without guns. Motor vehicle excise taxes are enforced by agents without guns. Federal income and estate taxes are enforced by agents without guns. There is no reason for tobacco and alcohol taxes to be enforced by agents with guns. And just because gun taxes relate to guns, is no reason for the agents who enforce those laws to carry guns.
I doubt it will make any difference, but at least I tried.
Posted by: wrangler5 at April 13, 2006 10:31 PM
For the record, a "pirate v. ninja" event is a common theme-party, where you show up dressed as either a pirate or a ninja.
for some comic relief, check out www.realultimatepower.net
I'm guessing this is where the ATFE got all their knowledge about ninjas.
Posted by: Gullyborg at April 14, 2006 01:44 AM
As bad as the ATF entrapment of Randy Weaver was, that was as nothing compared to the panicky triggerfingers of the U.S. Marshalls or the cold blooded sneak-attack of the FBI at Ruby Ridge.
Posted by: Brad at April 14, 2006 04:24 AM
In application of the ATFE's mistakes in a historical review.
The Nazi party had a "Complaint process" to ensure all Jewish citizens that their grievances would be reviewed.
The SS was an "accountable" police orgnaztion with high entrance requirements.
Like BATFE the SS and GESTAPO differed to a high moral conscience as explained by the number 2 man H. Himmler. "Conscience? Adolph Hitler is my conscience."
The ATF like their predicessors SS and GESTAPO are the most dangerous terrorists in existance.
The comments ,here,are miles shy of reality. Not one ATF dog killing scum would die for their "Beliefs" but all should,
ATF is a TRUE terrorist orgination!
POST MY NAME THAT THE BATFE SCUM MIGHT KNOW KILLING MY 5 FURRY FRIENDS ONE BY ONE HAS ONLY SHARPENED MY RESOLVE. EVIL FILTH I NAME YOU AND WOULD DIE CONTENT TO SEE ALL ATF EXTERMINATED FROM THE RACE OF MAN.
THE MILLIONS SLAUGHTERED BY SUCH AS THESE SCUM CRY OUT "For your benefit, learn from our tradegy, for it is not written law that next time the victims will be Jews." Bob Morgan 4580 Old Atlanta rd, Griffin, GA 30223
Posted by: Bob Morgan at February 16, 2008 02:15 PM